jpardoe

I don’t think you can.

> When I was using anthropic subs, my "equivalent usage" was $6k/month.

Exactly, yeah. The subscriptions are insanely generous and far better value than open models.

I switched to Pi and it was great but I had to switch back to Claude Code purely for the subscription. Even with all the token efficiency I built into Pi it just wasn't nearly as good value as an Anthropic subscription. All open models ended up being more expensive so I switched to using an OpenAI subscription, which was better, but the OpenAI subscription is way less generous AND their models are behind. It became hard to justify.

Seems smart.

I found GLM Flash competitive price wise but then my tasks took twice as long to complete. Even if it was cheaper (in my experience it still wasn’t) you then lose out on speed because of the insane amounts of inefficient reasoning.

In my experience yes. Been using Claude since day one and wanted to experiment with Pi for fun, and try to get my costs down. I found the open models more expensive, eventually had to plug my Pi set up into an OpenAI subscription, that was the only way to get good value… Then I realised OpenAI is way behind Opus 5.5 and their subscription is far less generous with usage, so I’ve come full circle and am back on Claude Code.

I think the real problem is that if we got rid of money laundering the budget would be even more screwed.

In practice all of these open models are more expensive than a Claude subscription.

Has he not heard of AI?

They're almost certainly making a profit on subscriptions.

So you need to know exactly what you want to order? People rarely order food like that in my opinion. The majority of the time people like to browse menus and consider the options. In that scenario the voice chat interface is absolutely terrible. “Remind me again of the option you presented to me 3 minutes ago? No not that one, list them again. No I don’t need to know the full item description with all ingredients, just be brief!” and so on. It’s just not an efficient way to relay that type of data.

We’ll see.

It’s the single biggest problem facing society. If we could stop this rent extraction the economy would prosper.

So astoundingly marginal. Seriously wondering how many Meta astroturfers are in here with some of these posts

What would be great would be a unified car ride app which accessed all vendors. The AI layer adds nothing, I would say detracts actually, and it would not be more popular. UI is just superior to chat in many, many applications.

I just can’t see this ever being common. It sounds terrible. Imagine phoning a number, a person answers and you attempt to relay and negotiate a food delivery order through them, in what world is that better than browsing an app? We don’t have to imagine, this is what we used to do. It sucked and almost everyone stopped doing it in favour of browsing an app. It’s just a superior interface for that sort of thing, it’s already as good as it needs to be.

It doesn’t seem like it to me. Explain?

How has it been made better for Enterprises?

That sounds a lot like training on your chats.

If the IP in question is software code then a lot of companies are overvaluing that at this point.

They have an unlimited token budget.

I don't think we're talking about Microsoft here.

They will slowly get eaten by more dynamic competition.

It's crazy how different everyone's experience is. I'm running 3-6 concurrent sessions in work hours and Opus 5.5 feels practically unlimited on $200/month. The value is incredible for how much I'm outputting. I finally managed to exhaust a weekly budget doing huge refactors and letting it run through the night with many sub agents so I thought I would try OpenAI for the first time. Even using Terra for most of my sub agents I can't believe how quickly I'm burning through my weekly quota. It seems significantly less generous than my Claude sub and at least in my experience Opus 5.5 is also clearly superior.