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Oh I'll fight you there. Turntable wins because you have access to LITERALLY ALL RECORDED MUSIC EVER :)

Great argument -- but I'd also counter that "the turntable" (i.e. in the hands of experts like Q-Bert, Craze, Rob Swift, Jazzy Jeff and others) fits this quite well -- especially re your "have the audience understand what he is doing argument"

Citation please; and remember your answer is incomplete without a comparison to the safety of NON sideloaded apps.

It's emphatically not "the wrong approach," and it's exceedingly weird when everyone makes things like this an "either/or."

Do BOTH, when possible.

This should be voted higher, it quite literally is this simple.

Keeeep going.

Are banks POWERFUL? Do they have lots of money and/or connections to those who do? Do they have a vested interest in getting transactions right?

Absolutely!

Now, with all that money and power -- they -- whoever THEY are, need to come up with smart ways to verify transactions that don't involve me giving them all the keys to all my devices.

We have protections like this elsewhere - even when they have some "ownership." The bank kinda owns my house, but they still can't come in whenever they want.

None of these things requires "locking down phones." Every single thing you've mentioned can be done in a smarter way that doesn't involve "individuals aren't allowed to modify the devices they purchase."

Your analogy is terrible because it doesn't do a proper accounting of "harm" and "risk."

Food and seatbelts, that's literal health and life-and-death; very immediate and visible.

"Cybersecurity" rarely is; and even when it is, the problem is that the centralized established authorities (like google) aren't at all provably good at this.

I've long wanted to kill (or drastically reduce) the narrative of "the swing voter" -- who mostly doesn't matter, and even if they do, is not reliable enough to be able to "influence."

In the US, it's basically about turnout and/or "suppression." There's a wall of "red no matter who" that's kind of the default, and whether or not blue wins is up to getting enough young people excited -- and perhaps, more importantly, ensuring that blue voters and votes aren't "cheated."

Sure, but this is why free software/open source is so important (and why we dodged a bullet due to "AI" being invented in a mostly open source world.)

I just think we'll all have to get comfy fighting fire with fire.

It's funny, I'm so comfortable calling this guy an idiot purely based on the fact that I've taken up Bob Ross style painting in like the last 2 years.

Teaches you to pay attention to "objective" colors. And at night, guess what, the colors get more red and less blue. I don't have to pull out as much blue paint for the night scenes.

It would be utterly naive to not thing that there's -- perhaps purely "psychological" (not sure if that's the exact concept but hey) effect by making the "white" on your screen, look like like the "white" you will definitely see in real life, which is going to be orange-r.

To you.

Laptops exist.

I haven't really dived into Tailscale et al because I'm still using Tinc; and the bulk of this discussion continues to make me not want to.

What's the big deal here? Any good reason to switch (besides Tinc's obscurity?)

I didn't know that Obsidian worked that cleanly; I occasionally flirt with it but have been using https://zim-wiki.org for about a decade longer, so my muscle memory is there. I keep looking for reasons to switch but so far nothing yet has done that?

Yes. And as much as I hate "well, users should just be smarter and deal with inconvenience," I think it may fit here.

Identity is always hard, and I strongly doubt there is any great way that makes it "easier" and still safe.

Aka, yes please kill passkeys, or at least be super upfront and informative.

"When you use passkeys, you are giving your keys to Apple or Google, and they cannot guarantee safety."

So, (especially after watching Bluesky / ATProto) I'm increasingly convinced that this is not a problem that needs solving.

Email is still a protocol, and the thing that ATProto is doing causes as many problems as it purports to solve.

Mostly because "decentralized identity" is still "identity." And the safest way to do identity is to have it be destructable and remakable on the fly.

Have we learned nothing from GIMP? No, no we have not.

So everyone saying "oh but they told us this" is completely missing the point; it's like those weird logic problems where everyone on the island has a dot on their head or whatever.

There's a massive difference between "widely known" and "widely known that it's widely known."

uh oh

yeah, that's dangerous for me, this is the ONE that got me started

I trust this is getting attention and votes for the same reason I'm paying attention here -- to highlight the absolute mediocrity and blah-ness of this whole thing.

Like this was some deep insightful journey and not your entirely typical cheerleader corpo-speak.

"At all?"

Oh come on -- of course they are. That's precisely why you put it in a "white paper" and not, you know, ads.

I think you sort of fundamentally misunderstand the whole "steak vs sizzle" thing in capitalism?

The technology "feels" way less cool knowing that there are human backups, which would absolutely in turn make its percieved value go down.

The difference being?

1. Still hard not to think that this is a huge waste of time as opposed to something that's a little more like a public transport train-ish thing, i.e. integrate with established infrastructure.

2. No seriously, is the filipino driver thing confirmed? It really feels like they're trying to bury that.

Given, you know, Microsoft, I'd demand proof even if they said they did.

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I win

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Right, but that is the thing I pay attention to. Again, I want to hear from former students that I did right by them, not current companies asking for free screening.

then do SCA and backronym it into something acceptable! That's even better lore :)

College instructor here. One thing I'm seeing here that's kind of funny is how badly so many of you are misunderstanding the value of "friction."

You see a policy, and your clever brains come up with a way to get around it, "proving" that the new methodology is not perfect and therefore not valuable.

So wrong. Come on people, think about it -- to an extent ALL WE DO is "friction." Any shift towards difficulty can be gained, but also nearly all of the time it provides a valuable differentiator in terms of motivation, etc.