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Tayloe Draughon - Trading Systems Product Manager
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jtd64··on Criminal charges against Programmer for actions of the user
1. Edge Financial Technologies had many clients. This was one small client at the time.

3. Sarao, the trader, is a witness against Jitesh and is part of his plea deal.

2. Which other platforms is this legal?

Answer: Adding quantity to an order is legal on most stock markets, and derivatives markets around the world.

Adding to your order is a perfectly legitimate transaction. Think of it as "Just before the price rises, I want to buy all I can." or the opposite "Just before the price falls, I want to sell all I can."

jtd64··on Criminal charges against Programmer for actions of the user
"Back of the Book" can be achieved by increasing your order quantity. It isn't illegal. To this day the CME's api states that if you increase your quantity you "lose priority" a.k.a. you move to the back of the book. Not illegal, and is actually very fair. If one tried to add 20 friends to your spot in line while waiting for concert tickets you would be asked to move to the back of the queue. Reference [CME Specs for cancel replace quantity increase.](https://www.cmegroup.com/confluence/display/EPICSANDBOX/Orde...)

Trader A is identified. He (Sarao) made millions off his trading and spoofing. Jitesh and Edge Financial were only paid $24,000 for their programming work.

According to the motion to dismiss (which the judge ruled was arguments for trial):

> The indictment against Jitesh contains no allegations

> that Sarao ever told Jitesh that he planned to spoof,

> move the market, or engage in any other illegal activity,

> which is consistent with Sarao’s FBI interview reports

> in which he told the government that he did not tell

> Jitesh what he planned to do. This is also consistent

> with Sarao’s indictment, which recounts Sarao’s

> conversations about his intent to spoof with the other

> three programmers over five pages of the indictment,

> but only contains one reference to Jitesh: “In

> approximately late 2011, SARAO began working with

> [Jitesh], to further develop the automated trading

> programs and functions he had been working to design

> and implement since early 2009.”

jtd64··on Fixing a Tough Memory Leak in Python
Agreed - But part of the solution is always allowing iterators in numpy to run to completion. Breaking in the middle causes a leak.
jtd64··on Ask HN: Anyone making money through algorithmic trading?
CloudQuant makes it clear that your Intellectual Property (IP) is yours. If you develop an alpha signal, and you collect your data on the site through backtesting, then that is part of your IP provided it isn't a copy CQ provided proprietary or licensed data (Market Data, Alt-Data, Fundamental Data...)

We do limit the size of downloads to ensure that you are not copying these licensed data sets.

jtd64··on Ask HN: Anyone making money through algorithmic trading?
We are seeing a number of market enthusiast coming up with trading strategies that work. Most don't have the staying power to get them to work enought to trade. Some do. Those that have the staying power often lack the financial resources to trade those algos for themselves. Problems = Capital, Access, Data, ...

To overcome that some are turning to CloudQuant (where I work). The CloudQuant algo development environment, backtesting tool, and trading strategy incubator is making it easy for people to take their trading ideas to funded trading rapidly. So far they have announced $72M in risk capital allocated to algorirthms created by individuals. Algos are licensed from the creator.

https://info.cloudquant.com/