justifier

I've heard this response before, but do you really feel it addresses the issue? Or are you just utilising whataboutism to cloud the issue?

This is a matter of people refinancing their homes, and funds putting money into futures of an asset that has potentially always been valueless

But to answer your question: yes, that bothers me too;

the hash functions are robust, though collisions are a concern

But my greater concern is in regard to nonce detection

Sort of

If what you really mean is it'll solve any problems in bqp

but you bring up an interesting point implicitly: do people who support cryptocurrencies deny the results and predictions of quantum hardware research?

Hoping to see a public statement about the uncertainty surrounding the foundational math of cryptographic hash functions instead it's the same volatility argument where the response is 'that's why I'm interested!'

Was encouraged but disappointed that proponents still ignore the risk that cryptographic hashes are reliant on unsolved mathematics

sure, but at some point you run out of leading zeros

or as bitcoin attempts to obfuscate it: "target=0"

it has yet to be proved, in the positive or negative, whether an algo can compute any target of a 256 bit hash in polynomial time forcing difficulty to require, at least, larger hashes or specific hardware

the problem with larger hashes is what makes the PoW difficulty where you need it also would cause the 'difficulty' of storage and reading of that hash to increase impractically

the problem with specific hardware is purely speculative but i would assume issues of frauds claiming to mine on the impeded hardware but truly use fully functioning hardware, or force the network to be centrally mined to ensure the hardware used which breaks cryptocurrency's image as decentralised

from https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Difficulty#What_is_the_maximum_di...

"The actual maximum difficulty is when current_target=0, but we would not be able to calculate the difficulty if that happened. (fortunately it never will, so we're ok.)"

that 'never' is simply offensive to the foundation of mathematical rigor that bitcoin is built on, and i would argue an attempt to defraud potential, and current, users

what is coinbase's stance on the future of cryptographic hash functions?

are they just trying to cash in as much as possible, like many of the investors, before the math is settled

or do they publicly state that they believe.. meaning without proof.. that p!=np?

are they resting their future, and the futures of all of their users.. and here apparently the economy writ large.. on faith?

math is the biggest threat to bitcoin

cryptographic hash functions are only as strong as the magnitude of our ignorance

But the most reasonable next step in the logic you yourself laid out is you should move back to lincoln to avoid having 'to pay increased taxes for [other's] ignorance/provincialism?'

You seem yet to have considered a thing like:'is living in San Francisco a fundamental right' for you?

I want to respond with a bender quote, "this is the worst kind of oppression, the kind against me"

But honestly your comment is so vague I'm unsure exactly what you want to be heard from your words

Can you clarify what kinds of oppression you noticed in SF and the kinds you noticed in other places

When you speak so indistinctly everyone is forced to fill the holes themselves

Those that agree that SF is oppressive will fill those holes with their own aggravating experiences and those that see SF as progressive will read your comment as "I just want to tell my coworkers that their lifestyle is offensive to god but SF is too intolerant of me and my wants"

Did you see the iron Man trilogy?

What you said is how I felt about those movies.. each time they produced material that could encourage the next generation

I've been meaning to do a long form on the subject

iM1: science as sexy then "in a cave, with a box of scraps"

iM2: discover a new element

iM3: hack hardware, hack the genome

Do these people know cryptocurrencies are reliant on unsolved mathematics?

This information needs to be the first thing people learn about cryptocurrency.. long before putting any money in

Fake: where's the mention of discovering p=np and all the current assets locked in Bitcoin disappearing in an instant?

But your reply only covers a small aspect of a single possible perspective on the question: 'a bug in only sha256 was disclosed publically'

Perhaps you are having 'the same discussions repeated ad infinitum.' because of your input stead the actual subject matter

> I guess that's the beauty of financial assets defined by open-source software. Bugs and exploits happen, they get fixed, and we move ahead on a new version.

I am unconcerned with the 'move ahead' bit

My concern is with the assets currently in the blockchain

When I warn those that ask me if they should 'get Bitcoin' that the technology is propped up on unsolved math problems

It is to protect their finances stead attempt to disparage Bitcoin

If the cryptography is broken then the entire blockchain is suspect and needs to be discarded along with the record of any assets locked in it

Can you point me to comprehensive and conclusive discourse on each of these; or even just:

> 20) If the cryptography gets broken the whole thing goes to zero

I bring it up often here and each time I am met with a similar argument that you are making, but loudly ignoring is different from discussing

It's like going to a doctor and each time saying 'ugh, the tired old cancer conversation..can we just talk about something new?!' until the cancer just kills you

i am unsure where you are located but that is definitely illegal in california:

http://www.dir.ca.gov/dlse/FAQ_tipsandgratuities.htm

if anyone does use the service.. definitely point the individual in the direction of the dlse

Whenever I have friends give me electronics stead throwing them away, without actual data, id say 95% of the time it's a capacitor

I really wish manufacturing encouraged easy swap components stead filling landfills

> It's thermodynamically sound

Due to the algorithms being inefficient

If that is resolved then the entire history will be suspect

And any thermodynamically similar future will have to compete on constants and exponents

Or you could regulate the hardware, 'this blockchain is only compatible with, and so calculated on, a gateway lt1700 with exactly 640k of ram' ;P

This is a great paper.. the perturbation map is very reminiscent of psychedelic imagery

Psychedelics come up a lot with nn created images, but this is interesting that under the influence of a perturbation suddenly the classifier starts presenting illogical assumptions

Also similar to how people recollect their own classifiers unfolding or showing bias when considered under the influence of psychedelics

Perhaps there is some deeper analogue with a substance influenced brain's neuronal activity

I was thinking along the lines of a practical and novel solution to another problem built on top of the assumption p≠np

But fair point, that is usually why I say such confidence in those technologies is disconcerting

Are there other theories that rely on the assumption that p≠np?

Like how there are theories that begin "assuming the reimann hypothesis|goldbach conjecture is correct.."

Disclaimer.. it is my intended inference to show that p=np

The I ching works like a binary look up table

You divine a series of yins and yangs, usually 3 or 6.. trigrams and hexgrams (o).. then look up that sequence in the text to discover it's meaning

010010 references one, whereas 000100 references another

I guess you could argue it's more Shannon than leibniz

(o) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Ching#Hexagrams

the I ching: yin(0) and yang(1); 1000BC

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Ching

> In this way, the researchers succeeded in showing the entanglement of 16 million atoms when previous observations had a ceiling of a few thousand.

It is my intended inference to show that all photons are 'entangled' weakly though two individual photons can be entangled 'strongly'

I think everyone has bias, but I do think issues can be discussed without letting your biases supplant reason

What I meant by signalling bias was I felt the gp was allowing bias about the issue cloud reasoning as to the nuance of the issue

If my comment seemed to imply that I deny nuance then I failed to communicate my point

Which was: sometimes pay is a result of other factors other than either a want or pure negotiation

> What stops [someone]..

Interviews scheduled during work hours, already working multiple jobs, burnout, lack of openings in your field

> It hardly is THAT hard to get some competing offers. And if you can't be bothered, I guess you don't really want it anyway?

This sentiment signals bias

Competing offers? For what? Serving coffee? Washing dishes? DBA? CTO?

If you offer anyone with a job more money my guess is 100% would take the extra cash, so just because they fail to find, or look, for more cash how does it imply they 'don't really want it anyway'?

If some people 'suck' at negotiating then that must mean there are others who are 'better' at negotiating

If I have a guardian who pays my rent so that i can take 6months to high ball offers to finally find a job that will pay me a high wage does that mean I'm 'better' at negotiating?

That one rings true: https://www.homesciencetools.com/vitamin-c-test-experiment-k...

Though the time frame is probably greater than casually sipping

Your comment reminded me of this recent video documenting something similar: https://youtu.be/faVlZRGyBDs

Video description:

Leonardo became obsessed with the heart in the latter period of his remarkable life. He made a prediction about the main blood vessel leaving the heart, the aorta. He had figured out how the flow of blood out of the heart actually closes the aortic valve.

Leonardo had no way of testing it and no way of seeing inside a working heart. For centuries no one else even speculated. But in the last 50 years technology has finally been invented to show that he was absolutely right.

I worked in a hostel for years and Europeans often noted how funny it was that people from the states referred to distance in regards to time

ie, an 8 hour drive, or 20 minute walk

It was always fun to sit around and speculate as to why