Perhaps we should just have dumb pipes, and let people network over them without a MITM running psychology and behavioral economics experiments on people who merely want to connect with friends and family
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Perhaps we should just have dumb pipes, and let people network over them without a MITM running psychology and behavioral economics experiments on people who merely want to connect with friends and family
Your problem transcends one whiner on Twitter; private entities can monopolize public agency across contexts and not be held accountable at all.
Here you are in a VC echo chamber; good luck
Why not fire the CEO for being disengaged from coming up with a novel idea?
The meme is these people work so…much…harder. But none of them built the patterns and infra that enable these companies to spin up in days, on their own.
Without a society capitulating to behave this way, these guys wouldn’t have anything. I see no reason to believe they should be respected for grifting.
I don’t care whose grandpa did what 80 years ago. I don’t owe deference to a figurative identity they want to carry around if it’s also literally abusive to the species as a whole.
Industrialist power is a privilege, not a right.
Google wouldn’t notice code not being checked in?
Call centers wouldn’t notice Q’s backing up?
No one would notice if Reddit’s front page was days old?
Commerce now relies on people being at computers daily at scale.
I seem to recall an invention called “Internet” which allowed for concerts, talk shows, and numerous other social events to occur during covid.
Everyone loaded up on extra TP, a work stop was all of not opening laptops for 35-40% of the country.
But feudal exploitation by the rich and each other locally is preferred.
Like waves and particles; it starts with individuals changing their behavior.
But we’d all rather sit around debating ephemeral abstraction (a lot like religion), reconfirming math and the physical universe still work as discovered years ago, as we’re all still “rich enough” the bottom falling out hasn’t gotten to us yet, political problems are for the poor.
Turn off sync to iCloud, make local backups only.
Who is to say politicians who started threatening tech companies publicly haven’t made threats behind closed doors about Apple maybe being on the hook as an accomplice for distribution?
My company only exists because our CEO had input on an executive order years ago. We hardly “made it” in the free market.
The headlines never tell the full story. Media colludes with politics to generate “the right” sentiment. The spec and implementation details aren’t being discussed, just classic speculation on privacy and overreach.
So much for this site having a higher level of discourse and it’s efforts to dissuade repetitive and knee jerk commentary though.
We’d have nicer things if we discussed how things work and instead of what corporate media wants us to discuss.
Maybe you freedom fighters should have heeded the warnings over the decades of creeping corporate control and stopped buying their products?
Oooh but that dopamine high from new stuff is so addictive!
Now you’re finding yourself in an overturned boat, adrift at sea, no life jacket, and you’re ready to take on monopoly?
The anti-politics bloc incensed their political hands off approach enabled others to wield politics against them.
Good luck.
Political ownership calls the shots. Might look different if the politically detached organized against rent seeking and monopoly but you’re all busy building rent seeking startups, easily monopolized blockchains for pump and dumpers funded by nation states.
What a shock politics are going fascist.
Remember when taxes were high and people were politically engaged, America was held up as a haven.
Now it’s mocked as a shit hole.
The system will emit one system that will always align with our understanding of reality with constants we cannot violate. The perimeter is programmed; physics. All this modeling is filling in the middle. What it means as far as impact on human agency is up to politics as usual.
This is more of the same “we have this streamlined math model, now what?”
All these things are is confirmation math operators still work within our known bubble of physics.
It’s mathematically true whether we define it or not. Some geometric art project is not a good basis for application of my agency.
Biology science allows us to take the view the application of these ideas is chemical delusion. The cynical take is that managing human agency with models most cannot understand the meaning of is fascist.
Go ahead and draw spirals on a wall all day. I don’t have to pick to politically empower people for it.
You know what saves money and effort? Doing less and buying less. An economical solution that’s untenable or rich people would be normal.
In the end they’d turn to the same old nation state for a bailout.
Y’all want to work on your art projects, fine. I see no reason to industrialize confirming mathematics operators still work.
As a mathematician, I’m often dismayed by the fantasy and fallacy the tech crowd buys into.
Tech hype isn’t high quality content, since most software is math that was already figured out years ago.
And finding yet another math object that abides the well known order of operations is a bit quaint at this point.
None of this is bending laws of physics.
Being accurately meta about reality is redundant and repetitive.
Edit: pretty great when a FB employee complains about the state of online discourse, btw. When a paycheck depends on ones obliviousness and all that.
The owners want to keep power.
We’re basically servicing last generations success in that we’re obliged to let them fund our way of life.
I don’t owe some chud who got rich in the 90s deference due to 30+ year old success.
It’s the same with house building; we have to prop up these imagined values of people who “won” before we were born.
Tax the rich or eventually the poor will outnumber them and eat them.
It’s terrible what China is doing to ethnic groups. They should chase extinction of the species itself! As if that doesn’t have old school biblical vibes. People were promised hell on Earth!
Play video games. Collect social points. Write code. Superior. Intellect echoes to fade out
Sure, that’s how it works.
I’ve noticed a trend of people good at abstraction believing they know the state of all particles that ever were and ever will be, use emotional language to make routine cognitive moments giant feeling.
Like that’s just how it is for all time, man.
We look away to “live our life” and tacitly believe others are behaving honorably.
And they all do.
Economists teach us inflation is good because if we increase worker buying power they might own more than the current landlords.
Hedge funds short stocks 200% to crater companies and make a profit.
Social media manipulates our biochemistry (arguably wasteful consumerism is built around this altogether.)
We’re undermining the security of our habitat for future people through all of this.
Everyone is acting honorably given our detailed history of being honorable people.
If our math models can predict the Higgs decades before it’s experimentally discovered, why is a math model from the 70s confirming society will implode in the 2040s any less reliable? Same correct order of operations. Reconfirmed recently by better trained experts.
Unfortunately your “always been this” way is problematic nowadays since humans weren’t always capable of annihilating themselves. A whole lot of their imagined scenarios rightly were bullshit. Previous generations left behind rock and stone buildings, some sludge at worst.
We’re leaving behind an industrial mess and a melted planet.
Now is a very different point in time.
Earth will go on with or without us. If the answer is shrug it off, well that won’t work as a majority get anxious. Nihilism risks social stability and solution seeking. If a bunch of people aren’t going to care, why support society? Let’s all just go tribal now.
The point is taking the language in that document literally is a ridiculous exercise.
The men that wrote it had barely discovered electricity.
We romanticize the achievements of morons.
Pretty sure the only bits in that doc taken seriously are the lack of rules against meddling in elections, and leveraging 1A and 2A to rile the masses.
In the end our decisions were guided by elder concepts of correctness, that coincidentally enriched them at our expense.
Paraphrasing Thomas Jefferson - “the earth belongs to the living and not to the dead.”
We’re due for a rethink of our social obligations, not just this attacking fiscal margins, and coddling the business elite of yesterday.
Who were enriched in an era of higher taxation and much lower costs. But they are obviously owed big returns on their decades old effort. Our reverence for them is of course etched into the physics of the universe. Hmmm…
If they’re under so much stress and disconnected from the average person, it’s time to stop crowning kings.
None of us have to believe in extreme ownership, and enabling stressed people, as it just leads to abuse.
Not just abuse of individual employees, but society, our personal agency, and environment.
Dollar objects get replaced much faster than better quality objects.
They’re manipulating that “new purchase” high similar to Facebook juicing us via likes.
Which form of meta-analysis we use to normalize against politically isn’t up for debate in the market of free ideas and information exchange.
Propaganda research became behavioral economics, advertising, marketing, and various psychology programs, but surely that’s not been used socially to titillate biology and insert desired talking points in that excited state from childhood forward.
It can’t simply be we were easily mesmerized by what are really banal statistics extrapolated from speculating on the movement of political scrip in an era of imperialism that’s now faded. Humans have never succumb to nonsense group think before!
Believing one has transcended their biology is not limited to kooks who think they can live on light alone.
So, yeah, calculated from the top. Handed to those closest to the tap.
Look into our transfer payment system, our system of political budgets, and apportionment.
Before it gets to workers, how money is carved up is very much monitored and managed.
Just because one is ignorant of how the system functions does not mean there is a free market.
The math is so complex they could not draw any conclusions.
Understand; we listened to lesser educated men of the previous generation about building business and economy. Men who missed out on our early education in science, and who were often far more religious. Men who had much different political narratives to satisfy; IBM was gifted government research. How many of our startups are?
Brookings conveniently avoids discussing the weakening political power of the US over the decades; easy to grow when the world needs you to manufacture for it after WW2.
It’s not hard for me to believe much of our economic theory is bullshit, and output is driven by political arrangements. Humans will generate economic activity naturally to survive. One can only induce so much superfluous activity beyond that.
Humans have a history of ignorantly extrapolating the wrong conclusions from reality.