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The universe is 13.8 billion years old. The JWST has found galaxies formed just 400 million years after the Big Bang. It took the earth 4.6 billion years to form, and 1 billion years to create life.

Our best theory of the universe, General Relativity, has solutions that allow for faster-than-light travel via some Alcubierre type drive (some [without negative mass](https://arxiv.org/abs/2405.02709)), and even wormholes.

Even with newtonian mechanic style solutions, it's estimated that it would only take Von Neumann self-replicating probes about 100k years to traverse our own galaxy.

Is it really that unlikely that some non-human intelligence potentially *billions* of years more advanced than us found our planet and uses it to study us or for whatever other purposes to them? IMO no.

And if you would do any research beyond just the headlines, you might come to the realization that our probably has government has recovered crashed/landed NHI craft.

I'm happy to point you to some not-so-light reading if you want to have a real conversation about this.

We could expand this further: async/await is the wrong abstraction for Rust.

Totally agree this is something the world needs to investigate together. That's why Grusch asked DOPSR for clearance to talk about the 1933 Magenta, Italy crash. Him and Elizondo have been working with Italian government officials regarding the official reports of the crash.

But, ultimately, I think one of the major powers has to own up to the reverse engineering programs for this to be taken seriously by the public.

The government/DoD isn't a single entity. Especially when it comes to waived, bigoted special access programs where only a handful of people will even know the programs exist. So just because one person says "oh we don't have any evidence of these programs" doesn't mean they actually know. It just means they haven't been read in.

Here is one good example. The current pentagon DoD UAP office AARO released a report [https://media.defense.gov/2024/Mar/08/2003409233/-1/-1/0/DOP...] saying they found no credible evidence of the reverse engineering programs. But when the office of the Director of National Intelligence was asked about it, they said they could not endorse the findings of the report https://www.liberationtimes.com/home/top-intelligence-office...

ty :) this is definitely a topic that's too taboo for most people to touch, but the allegations of the DoD withholding information from congress is very serious and this should not be overlooked. If his claims are true, our democracy is in peril imo

I have no clue. But it's hovering without rotors or any jet propulsion engine, and it's rotating in mid air.

> the government's own investigations have consistently come to the conclusion that no extraterrestrial or physics-defying technologies are involved

I'm not sure if you've looked into the government's self investigations in the 70s regarding claims the CIA was experiment on their own populace where they also found no evidence. But 20 years later the CIA declassified those documents to show the CIA absolutely was dosing cities with LSD in the water supply.

My point being, the Department of Defense investigating itself is like letting a murderer run his own investigation.

I'm posting this because it's crazy to me how the link regarding Jimmy Carter's UFO encounter gets upvoted in HackerNews, but not David Grursch's claims. Grusch was a former NRO/NGA intel officer. He testified under oath to the Intelligence Community Inspector Generals, both Senate/House Intel Committees, and a public House Oversight Committee under oath that the USG has recovered crashed/landed non-human intelligence craft. The ICIG referred Grusch's claims to the intel committees as being "credible" and "urgent".

David Grusch is not some random whistleblower we should be ignoring. He was a GS-15 intel officer read into over 2000 special access programs. He handled the presidential daily briefing, which they do not give to just anyone. Take a look at his resume to see how highly cleared he was https://docs.house.gov/meetings/GO/GO06/20230726/116282/HHRG....

And let me just clarify - this is not just one person's claims. His work in the UAP Task Force had 40 people with direct, first hand knowledge of the programs. Some of whom worked on the non-human intelligence (NHI) craft. He had these people testify to the ICIG, providing documentation, imagery, and other evidence.

Listen, I know this sounds insane to most folks. The meat of his claims, beyond the craft, are that factions of the USG have not been properly giving congress(and even some presidents) oversight of these alleged Special Access Programs. The ICIG has most likely referred this case to the justice department, and his claims have started a congressional UAP Caucus in the house.

Take a look at this interview with Marco Rubio, the ranking member of the Senate Intel Committee, as he's talking about the 40 whistleblower's claims https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4hmaflNoKU

Rep Jared Moscowitz, after a SCIF meeting with the ICIG, said "Based on what we heard many of Grusch claims have merit!" https://twitter.com/JaredEMoskowitz/status/17458524006304566...

If you haven't watched the HOC hearing, or any of his other interviews, I highly recommend you do so. Or at the very least, read his opening statement he was giving to the HOC

* HOC opening statement https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/Dave_...

* HOC hearing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSCEWo2yjds

* Initial interview with Ross Coulthart https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLZzDhDYMcw

* Initial article https://thedebrief.org/intelligence-officials-say-u-s-has-re...

* Interview on JRE https://open.spotify.com/episode/6D6otpHwnaAc86SS1M8yHm

* Interview with Tucker Carlson https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1735083523050975277...

I'm not saying the claims are true. I'm just saying, the allegations are worth investigating and should not be dismissed outright.

One final note. After Grusch's claims released, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer introduced an amendment to the NDAA 2024 titled "UAP Disclosure Act" which would've set up a presidential panel to declassify and release information that the USG has on the subject. It references the terminology "non-human intelligence" 27 times. The amendment was gutted by certain house members and unfortunately did not make it through in its initial form, but it's worth the read. https://www.democrats.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/uap_amendment....

You can hear Schumer talk about the UAPDA on the senate floor where he says "credible sources have said that information on UAPs has been withheld from congress" here https://www.c-span.org/video/?c5097853/user-clip-schumerroun... and he talks about it again when the amendment was being gutted by certain house members here https://old.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/18aua4o/senator_schum...

And finally, I highly recommend checking out askapol.com where Matt Laslo has been doing great work getting congress members on the record about this.

All of the evidence is classified. If he would've brought out imagery or any evidence to the public, he would've been put in jail.

And it's not "hearsay" He brought 40 people with first hand knowledge to the ICIG. People who worked in the reverse engineering programs - who touched the craft.

Unlike Snowden who just released a bunch of classified information to the public, Grusch went through the proper whistleblower channels and submitted the evidence to the ICIG.

Look at my edit regarding the Senate Majority leader.

There's strict protocols for aircraft flying near the president's aircraft. There's no way in hell the airbase would allow take off while the president is in the air and he wouldn't have been told about it.

Here's a pretty decent video of one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBdEeHYDuyc

It's crazy to me how this link gets upvoted in HackerNews but not David Grursch's (former NRO/NGA Intel Officer) claims don't. He testified under oath to the Intelligence Community Inspector Generals, both Senate/House Intel Committees, and a public House Oversight Committee under oath that the USG has recovered crashed/landed non-human intelligence craft. The ICIG referred Grusch's claims to the intel committees as being "credible" and "urgent".

David Grusch is not some random whistleblower we should be ignoring. He was a GS-15 intel officer read into over 2000 special access programs. He handled the presidential daily briefing, which they do not give to just anyone. Take a look at his resume to see how highly cleared he was https://docs.house.gov/meetings/GO/GO06/20230726/116282/HHRG....

And let me just clarify - this is not just one person's claims. His work in the UAP Task Force had 40 people with direct, first hand knowledge of the programs. Some of whom worked on the NHI craft. He had these people testify to the ICIG, providing documentation, imagery, and other evidence.

Listen, I know this sounds insane to most folks. The meat of his claims, beyond the craft, are that factions of the USG have *not* been properly giving congress(and even some presidents) oversight of these alleged Special Access Programs. The ICIG has most likely referred this case to the justice department, and his claims have started a congressional UAP Caucus in the house.

Take a look at this interview with Marco Rubio, the ranking member of the Senate Intel Committee, as he's talking about the 40 whistleblower's claims https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4hmaflNoKU

Rep Jared Moscowitz, after a SCIF meeting with the ICIG, said "Based on what we heard many of Grusch claims have merit!" https://twitter.com/JaredEMoskowitz/status/17458524006304566...

If you haven't watched the HOC hearing, or any of his other interviews, I highly recommend you do so. Or at the very least, read his opening statement he was giving to the HOC

* HOC opening statement https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/Dave_...

* HOC hearing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSCEWo2yjds

* Initial interview with Ross Coulthart https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLZzDhDYMcw

* Initial article https://thedebrief.org/intelligence-officials-say-u-s-has-re...

* Interview on JRE https://open.spotify.com/episode/6D6otpHwnaAc86SS1M8yHm

* Interview with Tucker Carlson https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1735083523050975277...

I'm not saying the claims are true. I'm just saying, the allegations are worth investigating and should not be dismissed outright.

Edit: One final note. After Grusch's claims released, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer introduced an amendment to the NDAA 2024 titled "UAP Disclosure Act" which would've set up a presidential panel to declassify and release information that the USG has on the subject. It references the terminology "non-human intelligence" 27 times. The amendment was gutted by certain house members and unfortunately did not make it through in its initial form, but it's worth the read. https://www.democrats.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/uap_amendment...

That would increase costs for US consumers drastically in the interim 20 years it takes to get those fabs online

Engineering can’t always combat a poor integral structure.

There will still be cases where more fine tuned control is warranted. Rust has done this very intelligently by moving data race controls to the compiler level.

Hmm, Jesse Michels posts videos so infrequently (he just did the first one in a year) and he still got 2 million views instantly..

>But modern thinkers cannot be so readily absolved

No, but they can go on a 40 year goose chase trying to reconcile the many different string theories that don't have any physical evidence to substantiate.

QFT is one of the most successful theories we've created, but GR is still our best theory regarding gravity. There's still no evidence for the graviton. We probably need something else besides QFT to describe the nature of reality

Idk if I buy this. I’m mostly a backend service developer, but my team manages our own infra using CDK and we love it. And we’re glad they used typescript as it’s a fantastic language.

Async await is polluting rust. What was once my favorite language is now a pain in the ass. And I am not the only person who feels this way. There’s no shame in pivoting

Can you admit that you failed in making it a pleasant experience to write async, especially for library authors? I don’t think it’s too late to admit failure and implement something like May https://github.com/Xudong-Huang/may

People love(d) rust because it’s a pleasant language to write code for while also being insanely performant. Async is taking away the first point and making it miserable to write code for. If this trend continues, it’ll ultimately destroy the credibility of the language and people will choose other languages. The proposers of async did not take this into account when they were proposing async

But you have to pull in an async runtime to do it. So library authors either have to force everyone to pull in an async runtime or write two versions of their code (sync and async).

So you’re stuck choosing a single CPU or having to write send and sync everywhere. There’s a lot of use cases where you would want a thread-per-core model like Glommio to take advantage of multiple cores while still being able to write code like it’s a single thread.

> I have used Rust async extensively, and it works great. I consider Rust's Future system to be superior to JS Promises.

Sure, but it’s a major headache compared to Java VirtualThreads or goroutines

> async doesn’t imply multithreaded

Async the keyword doesn’t, but Tokio forces all of your async functions to be multi thread safe. And at the moment, tokio is almost exclusively the only async runtime used today. 95% of async libraries only support tokio. So you’re basically forced to write multi thread safe code even if you’d benefit more from a single thread event loop.

Rust async’s set up is horrid and I wish the community would pivot away to something else like Project Loom.

Do you have any evidence of this? The IC can refer you to the justice department on his own if you've lied to him/her.

Even still, you’ve completely ignored the other half of my comment. Grusch is alleging specific people and corporations are involved in illegal activities. The corporations should have no trouble suing Grusch for false accusations and defamation, which in this case would be equivalent to jail time. So even if congress didn’t refer him to the justice department for perjury, those corporations absolutely will sue Grusch if he’s lying.

You are so wrong. This thing is picking up major steam. https://www.democrats.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/sch...

That’s why congress needs to send a special envoy to investigate, and from what I’ve read they are looking into doing so. Ross Coulthart likely did not get this information from David Grusch btw.

Whatever it may end up being, I think it’s imperative that congress investigate this because of what you’re saying is true then this is not good for the American people to be led on like this.

I used to think most politicians were cooks. Now I realize most of them are very smart and have very different private opinions from the ones they scream at their base. This topic is a good example of showing how intelligent some congressmen (who you thought were crazy) are. For example https://twitter.com/cspan/status/1684249806300905480?s=46&t=...