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Also, did he really said that or are those quotations mark artistic license?
The only thing I can argue here is that they may be doing it to receive fewer takedown requests in Google Search. But I'm not defending them, as that probably isn't the case.
Also, there's another issue. Even if you get the same webpages all the time, that doesn't mean that those aren't the same results. Especially when webpages today have a lot of different content. I.e. diversity != quality.
Also, autocompletion in zsh is vastly superior, especially with options to commands.
In fact, I think the developers could greatly benefit from public responses by doing PR and by explaining that some bugs have already been fixed or that they are going to be fixed in the next version. Or by explaining that some problem is due to user configuration or at least post a workaround publicly in the store.
Don't get me wrong, some ideas from the post are great. Like upvoting and downvoting, somewhat like many other e-commerce sites that have "Was this answer heplful?". But that doesn't mean that having public responses is a bad idea. Maybe he's not good are answering questions, but the rest of the developers would like to do so. So, no, the lack of a feature is not a feature.
I click on a link on an e-mail an it opens Safari, when I want to use Opera. I have to kill all the applications living on the down thingy (multi-tasking), although I do know that they may not be using any memory, but they do feel like slowing things down. And of course, I almost lost all my apps, had problems with my iTunes and lot's of other issues when I moved country.
That's not exactly 'just works'.
Of course, YMMV. And that's why we don't use personal examples to say that something is better than the other.
EDIT: OK, not exactly better, but to say something 'just works' or is 'airtight' and things like that. Android works pretty well too.
That's not my point in that part. I was questioning the invention of the Internet as an easy to identify fact, while trying to explain that what we understand from the Internet is much much more than TCP/IP, for example HTTP, SSL, SMTP, IMAP, and many many more. And that's not even counting all the programming languages like HTML, CSS or even JavaScript. On the other end, you have all the different routing algorithms and all the hardware created to support the Internet. Where does it start being the Internet and where does it stop? That's why the list would never stop and/or be enormous.
> No it doesn't. It means that women did not contribute to the invention of the Internet. Anything else you read into that is purely your imagination.
I think that's clear because otherwise you wouldn't say it. It's like saying that the car's invention was a white people thing. Just look at the first paragraph: "Without men, we would never know what our friends were doing five minutes ago." We wouldn't have it if we didn't have women and if we didn't have humans and if we didn't have children. That sentence is true, but it does not do any good or adds any information more than implying than men were the only capable of creating the Internet.
But that's part of the interpreting part of the article. Of course we can differ. I think, in this case, either way could be a possibility, but from the tone of the article I believe that it is implied that women could not have created the Internet.
Either way, I think the problem is that we have differing views on what a particular invention is. First of all I think it's hard to define the Internet: is it just the networking? Do you count the application layer?
The problem is not that women did not contribute to the Internet, the problem is saying that this means that women cannot make productive contributions to technology or the Internet or computers in general.
If we are talking about a particular invention we can talk about specific inventors. But the Internet is not one but many technologies put together invented and developed by different people, which include men and women (maybe not specifically Lovelace).
Apart from that, saying that women did not contribute enough to the Internet, is like saying black people did not contribute enough to the invention of cars; it's mostly true, but it could be argued that that's because they were an oppressed group.
Either way, if you are tired of this discussions don't participate on one, but don't tell other people to not discuss. Maybe someone new here wants to express his/her ideas or maybe someone old really loves discussing this topic.