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Solid take, these days most apps are just glorified browser wrappers and you don't miss out on anything. In fact, you could have a separate browser with all these saving modes disabled just for the youtube use case.

Yeah, I hope so as well. I want to see this tech being used for good stuff and not just spam and inducing fear ...

I have a hard time keeping up with the space. Is langchain old news? Is there a page that kind of shows what the status quo for tooling is?

I should have know that beforehand, I have terraform ready for quickly moving off of mechanical turk into agentic AI left padding, this load-bearing workload has to be clowd powered

This needs an SBOM and a SonarQube Qualitygate pass to be considered production grade code

I think the future is going to look pretty boring, we are all going to review and put our signature below LLM generated output...

You can get a used or cheap headset for a similar experience. VR has a couple of games you get bored of pretty quickly :0

been there

We just need basic legislation to make these companies invest more resources into developing guardrails, and if they don't do that properly or can't pull it off, they shall be at an economic disadvantage.

You could hire a legion of people for cheap to commit these crimes, but if its bots, suddenly its unpredictable and just one big whoopsie and therefore perfectly ok to do?

If a human starts pentesting a site its a crime, but if a bot does it its an AGI frontier doomsday scenario and that automatically pushes the consequences off their table?

Whats going to happen next? Are we gonna have robots that happen to physically break into banks to rob them for some reason and the company making them isnt responsible just because?

On top of these unrealistic doomsday prophecies going around lately, every company really has a disdain for its workers and would love to replace them all with bots. What everyone thought will happen, will eventually lead to companies become dependant on these AI companies. They can then jack up the prices as much as they wish, since there is no competition left or rehiring is ever so inflexible. I hope companies see the rug they place themselves on clearly. Notice how its always some fear inducing scenario in the future and this has been going for a couple of years now.

Yes, you have a point here

I honestly feel personally attacked by this and I don't consider myself to be an out of touch kung fu master or technologist at all. It is just very odd to read such an inflammatory comment on HN and then have people pretend this is correct and perfectly socially acceptable to say.

Like put your shoes into the person you are arguing against, with some empathy, would you want to be treated this way?

Absolutely correct take. People are so caught up in doing the bidding, they forget what it is all about.

We really have to postpone the IPOs because of security reasons, these LLMs cannot be trusted

This actually looks very useful, good work

Eerily accurate how it works these days, I wish you weren't correct. I met a DBA wizard (he looked like the creator of c++) at a banking IT dept and this guy intuitively sensed what you needed and how its done.

Are you load-bearingophobic?

I'm starting to believe computer work and screens make me lose touch with reality and dissociate. I remember starting an apprenticeship as a dev in 2015 and I saw a guy like me, but 2 years in, with deep eye bags and he just smiled, didnt say anything and he looked extremely exhausted. Well 11 years later and here we are, we are all tethered to this mess

Exactly this, if you count the amount of time the windows 11 context menu needs to pop up and then the second click to get to the old context menu across the entire globe for a month, you would get an insane amount of time and cycles wasted

That is a case I only become aware of when I read blogs like this. Technically I could solve it the same way, but these days you have so many tasks on your desk, you don't think about the problem and implications at all and that awareness/discipline is drowned in the noise/unlearned over time.

If someone only gave me 2 minutes for this, because they think it is very simple (as always), I'd have done a count of files of a specific pattern in the directory and then picked a random index, very naive and quick and dirty programming, no sampling at all, just to avoid discussions why it takes so long with people who don't want to hear it.

This reminds me of when I did a lot of C#, Java, JS, Python in my life, filling maps of strings and objects until I started with zig and noticed how expensive and complicated strings and data structure allocations can be. It kind of blew my mind how much memory and computation we waste when we try to get stuff done as fast as possible because of budget/time constraints.

I was pretty early in the LLM stuff and I got called out on using it back in the day, because I showed the exact symptoms we see now, but as soon as management jumped on the train all the coworkers did a 180 and I alt tabbed out into a different department thinking it would change something... well it didn't :'D

I guess it will take some years till we are sane again or not...

I revisit it to see if the promises are unbroken now from time to time with every other update and these days it doesn't look so good. It is non deterministic all the way down.

I wish this was always possible, but sometimes you do it when stuff is ambigous or the task is almost undefined and you just can't reach far enough for someone to fix it, so going over it and talking is simpler

In essence, you are correct. What I see with LLMs is how they will happily make up stuff, meanwhile you can pretty much exhaust SO, until you are forced to understand the problem you are having.

You don't have to be a certain person to fall into this trap, you just condition your brain to accept this workflow somewhere.

Pair this with day to day work stress like time and amount of tasks and you almost give in to a sort of addiction to deal with it all.

I can share a weird story:

Usually, I take my time to understand each keyword of the code I'm looking at, especially if it is new to me, like terraform.

I work in a team/with one architect, who only did the DevOps/Infra stuff for the past years and I had the expectation he knows what he is doing and talking about.

At around 2 weeks, I noticed how his knowledge has severe gaps and how he takes things at face value or uses terminology interchangably, which confuses me. It sounds plausible, but it does not actually translate into a working system or shared understanding.

Then one day I did some pair programming with him and whenever there was an error or a resource missing, he would type it into the LLM, copy paste it out of it and then brute force error messages. He did not even wait a second to think or reconcile whats happening on the screen or what the exact requirement is. Never taking one step back and questioning any assumption.

Now that the timeline is shifting and everyone starts to be stressed, he continues to vibe code through me and it is so tiring, there is no higher level planning or architecture, its just a reactive type of trial and error to be faster. It feels like these people are so used to talking to bots, that they treat you like an agent they can chat to or talk through monologs with.

It is quite shocking how people went from being humble (learn the basics or close the gaps in understanding) to full on authority on everything and berating people 24/7...

So right now I'm considering quitting IT for a couple of years until people calm down, but I think its pretty futile

I must live in a different world or it feels like I'm reading LLM generated comments, but who exactly is falling for this marketing?

I even keep seeing obvious stealth marketing like this: "<topic> and how do I use it with <product> in <product>"

Very true, unfortunately it is just about repeating something for long enough so you micro agree on certain things and adopt a new "normal" and that volume of info is getting out of hand

I think this is a marketing campaign

How exactly does that work? How can you sneak a live feed past detection systems? It is incomprehensible to me, considering this is highly regulated and sensitive data. It is just open ports sending what they shouldn't be sending all the way out or what?

I wish something would finally happen, because I'm really tired of pretending I care about this stuff at work at this point

Exactly, he is monetizing the dramaslop. A sack of rice falls over and suddenly the world is on the brink of collapse. A fun exercise to see how lunatic this pattern of fear is, you can look for an echo chamber you know nothing about, maybe games or music or DIY or kitchens or whatever on youtube and suddenly you will see the same patterns play out. It is quite sad to see people do this for a living, but it is what it is. The kitchens are funny to me, because apparently there is a grand conspiracy of kitchen companies forming a monopoly funded by whoever and basically thats why you will never be able to cook like you used to be able to back in the day and basically its over. Just typing this out made me smile.

IMO Ed is entertaining and I don't believe much in LLMs, but I personally don't really care what happens next with it or what happens at all, the world will continue to spin.

This is the way it is, you have to create entropy around yourself by moving in the world. As you have little influence over the perception of others, it is best to find an environment you can work in. I'm not sure if it has anything to do with delusions or luck at all, it is just who you can interface with. I'd even say "luck" is just a symptom or something we tell ourselves, but with every engagement you increase your exposure to "luck".

If I consider how I met my wife, I wouldn't call it luck, but rather circumstances that happened to align. Especially introverted people profit from letting sheer randomness take over and prove their assumptions/internal model wrong. It seems as if your world view shrinks when you don't challenge it. Just don't take big risks but make low cost engagements/attempts that build up into something big.

It's like keep going so you are there when the door opens, but also stand in particular places, so you can see what doors exist.