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> So I don't see any reason to stick to RN

For the exact same reasons you chose in it the first place: experience with React to build a single codebase for different platforms.

If AI allows you to build your native apps and keep 2 different, growing code bases in parity without needing native dev experience, then use AI. But my point of the original comment is that those decisions are different at smaller companies than Shopify. There is no free lunch.

There's been some discussion around Shopify (and others) move from React Native to purely native and that leading some people to conclude that LLMs have effectively killed RN. Which has always seemed silly to me for 2 reasons: First, Shopify almost certainly has on staff (or access to) actual native devs to steer that ship that a small/medium-sized company may not have. But more importantly, it's not the "Translate this RN app into native" that's the trouble. It's the hundreds and thousands of additional iterations you'll have to do on top to maintain and build out that product.

It's hard keeping separate code bases with separate languages in tandem, and while LLMs definitely aid in that area, I can't imagine it's a free lunch.

Right, but Postman would have been a valid choice all the way up until it wasn't. The cost of building your own used to vastly outweigh the cost of having to possibly move to another app, pay for licensing when that changes, etc. But that's changing (especially for something like a GUI to make http requests which feels pretty mechanical for basic use cases).

Tangentially related, one belief I've had since the beginning is that LLMs will result in the decrease in large consulting/software factory companies (good riddance) and one-size-fits-all solutions in favor of solutions tailored to a business's actual needs. I work in a slice of healthcare. There are a handful of big EMRs and they were all built 20 years ago in an industry that changes and so many providers end up having to retrofit their businesses around whatever quirks/workflows the software has. And it's usually one of a few flavors: overly restrictive, too configurable, or worst of all: not restrictive at all. None of those are ideal. But now that the economics are changing, hiring a software dev or 2 at your small/medium-sized company becomes a lot more appalling. And it means they actually get business experience. Which means better software all around. I believe the days of shuffling changing requirements through 4 layers of PM's and BAs and sprint leads only to end up with a solution that looks like it was built playing the telephone game are waning.

It's wild that building bespoke software that fits your needs instead of relying on a one-size-fits-all approach that you're constantly battling against is frowned upon.

I have to ask myself what business you could possibly be in where you look at the software landscape and think "Yea, this aligns perfectly with my needs".

Apple certainly did.

> Psychiatry: Downs, Lowe, Bhatti, Moodie, Nutt

I knew a therapist named Dick McNutt. It's funny because each of these are relevant to the subject in different ways (symptom, diagnosis, life story).

> The ultimate buyers of their product was the system operators and the system owners

Right, which is why bringing upva meaningless stat like how many assets their web site downloads feels like satire.

> BTW just for giggles opened hub.docker.com with Network Tools opened: 368 requests, 9.62MB, Finish: 4.50s.

lol What on god's green earth does this have to do with commercializing Docker? Do you really think better lighthouse scores on hub.docker.com was what was holding them back?

> it truly changed the life of many developers.

That's for sure, especially for local dev.

I don't know that I agree, especially with LLMs as they are right now.

Maintainability isn't just for humans. An LLM working in an unmaintainable codebase has the same problems we do. It doesn't necessarily follow that if your code can pass your tests today then it will be able to pass the tests of tomorrow. I'm in healthcare. Regulations and payor rules change constantly. I don't know what tomorrow will bring, but I do know that the code I have an LLM generate tends to focus on the here and now (at the expense of the future). Sometimes that's okay, though. I don't know much about writing a compiler, so it could theoretically work.

This is by no means an anti-AI post (I use the hell out of these tools). But I can still see the cracks in them.

I'll add one: Not including the date and time it was written.

> They ran react conferences, teaching everyone who would listen about "1 way data flows" and pretending like they invented FP.

When you have to resort to outright lying about something it's usually a good sign your argument is flawed.

Because your comment is irrelevant to what's being talked about. You feeling the need to add your personal opinion about how much you hate React despite having no bearing on the conversation is what React Derangement Syndrome is.

lol Great insight. I really trust an opinion about something you admittedly don't use. Also is "aura" a technical term?

Why wouldnt frontend frameworks be relevant?

It's called React Derangement Syndrome. People who may have not touched the web in over 20 years find themselves having very strong opinions about it. I've never seen a library get so much unwarranted hate in my entire career.

"Hey team, some guy on HN said we should use Svelte because it has a good "aura". Has that been factored into our CBA?"

I remember going down a rabbit hole of Youtube border security videos (like the TV show "Cops" but for customs and the border) and was shocked at how much power they have. It doesn't seem to be uniquely American either as the show takes place in Canada and Australia as well.

They'll go through everything: phones, journals, mail. They'll straight up call people in someone's phone and question them if they think it's relevant.

Book 4 of Tad William's Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn series.

> This is common among people with low social intelligence

lol What? It's always amusing to me when someone makes absolute claims like "the industry" when having seen < 0.1% of it.

> "Unintelligent thugs" wouldn't be able to keep organized crime organized.

You're just speculating. Go listen to the John Gotti tapes. Go read The Five Families, The Sicilian Mafia, or Excellent Cadavers. These aren't deep people. There are no Michael Corleone's. They're all Sonny's.

Most "mafia" is local bookies and theft rings. Organization doesn't require intelligence. Nor does holding people up with a gun or threatening their family if they go to the cops. It's not "smart" to record politicians with their mistresses, it's just the thing you do if you want to commit more crimes.

https://gangstersinc.org/2013/09/27/5-of-the-dumbest-moves-i...

> Corporations do think far ahead. But they often cannot act on it directly, because of short-term incentives.

Except tobacco companies, Wells Fargo, General Motors, Boeing, Purdue Pharma (I don't think getting your customer base addicted to drugs and dying from an overdose is "smart"), etc.

Not understanding how your actions may effect others (or simply not caring that they do) is a sign of a lack intelligence. Not understanding that your safety and wellness is directly tied to the safety and wellness of the people around you can only be excused if you're a toddler.

There is no need to stay "on the good side of the law." They pay off cops. They pay off the judges.

If they can kill with impunity they can certainly do the same with drugs.

Large-scale crack cocaine gangs existed too with substantial levels of organization but they still sell crack.

They're mostly unintelligent thugs motivated by greed. And I think the "Why would they kill their own customers?" implies they think that far ahead. Which is probably true as well for most major corps. They'll take short term profit over quite literally anything.

> would argue that fent became an issue only after the oxycontin et al.

No, the pain pill debacle of the early aughts actually led to heroin usage.

What caused the rise of fentanyl was the US getting out of Iraq and Afghanistan and the Taliban (or whoever took over) burning the poppy fields.

Thank you. I said the same thing in another comment.

https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/the-pizza-connection-35th-a...

> 'The Godfather' was the glorification of a bunch of bums who never existed.

— Orson Welles

The Godfather overly romanticized the mafia and made them out to be "violent but in a principled way" people and nothing could be further from the truth.

It's complete fantasy that the mafia didn't deal hard drugs.

https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/the-pizza-connection-35th-a...

Orson Welles said it best:

"'The Godfather' was the glorification of a bunch of bums who never existed."

You're not implying netcat and curl are synonymous are you?

And When "normal" people talk about api clients? lol This site is wild.

lol Id say the nonsense is tying multiple calls to the definition of an api client.

Irony died in this comment thread.

Don't they continuously tweak the models post-release?

How does the definition of "implementing" change the fact that curl quite literally is an api client? It's an implemented api client.

> Seems like maybe you should take your own advice.

Seems like maybe if you have to use your own custom definition of a word in order to support a point you might not have one. lol.

You said ""re-implements an API client" which means you either don't know what curl is or don't know what an api client is. So I'd chill on calling things "stupider" when you don't have a strong grasp on the words you're using.