micahbright

Pure gold. This is exactly what I was thinking when I read that.

Fact: women and men aren't distributed equally in tech and leadership.

And your conclusion is that anyone who presents these facts and says that maybe one causes the other means that women are "less suited" for engineering?

There is no logical basis for this. He didn't say what you are attributing to him.

Well, she only has to prove it to men that she assumes are sexist or incapable of understanding population distributions. I mean, really? Let's fight sexism with sexism.

You need to study more.

Ahem... citation needed

>I’m not remotely surprised, however, that Damore naturally assumes the differences between typically female and male traits mean that men are more skilled.

He never said or implied that. The whole problem is people overreacting about what they read in to it.

Are you saying it's necessary or desirable to lower the bar for people to fill quotas, however, when someone writes something that you obviously haven't read or understood, it's rightful that they should be terminated for those opinions that you don't even seem to have grasped. I mean, you do realize that "trying to use provable false statements to create a toxic work environment for one third of your coworkers is a PR disaster" is utterly false.

You're saying this implies that the author thinks women working at Google perform worse than men at Google?

I just want to make sure I understand exactly what you mean, and for anyone who is reading what was written above, this might clarify.

Certainly well known, supported, and referenced scientific facts, are not creating a hostile work environment. The fact that he was treated that way suggests that it is in fact a "thought crime".

Could you quote exactly the line where he "attempted to do the same with women who work at Google"?

That would be pure gold. I read the memo, but I don't recall that part.

I'm thinking, one of us may have our blinders one. I just want you to do the work since it is your claim, and it's a 10 page memo.

Nice - you just proved that diversity programs are unnecessary with far fewer words than James Damore.

But like I said - if you use funding to report violence against men, you won't ever get any more funding. So, you can bring out all the statistics funded for violence against women, but you have a systemic imbalance here. And there is sufficient evidence that it needs further investigation.

It could also be due to men leaving industries that have ongoing lowering of wages.