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morpunkee··on Ruby reverted the controversial Code of Conduct changes
This reversal was requested by Matz, who stated:

  I am sorry but I am confusing. As a non-native English speaker (and non-USA citizen), I have a hard time grasping the issue.

  Of course, I am against any kind of harassment but I am not sure how those changes improve the situation. Probably we don't share common sense, background, and culture.

  So I propose the following:

  * Revert everything back before the issue for now
  * Protect related PRs (including #2690, #2693, #2695, #2696) for a while (say 1 month) to cool down
  * Then open a new issue to discuss the CoC for the Ruby community

  Note that the Ruby community has no membership, no initiation, no admission. It's just a group of Ruby users who like the language. So the community guideline shall be abstract and vague (with encouragement but without enforcement) like the current one. CoC for individual teams (e.g. the core team) or aggregations (like conferences) might have more concrete CoC.
Source: https://github.com/ruby/www.ruby-lang.org/pull/2696#issuecom...

Previous discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28712821

morpunkee··on Ruby removed “Participants will be tolerant of opposing views” from its CoC
Troll or not, he was supported by those people.
morpunkee··on Ruby removed “Participants will be tolerant of opposing views” from its CoC
http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/cgi-bin/scat.rb/ruby/ruby-talk/...
morpunkee··on Ruby removed “Participants will be tolerant of opposing views” from its CoC
We don't know the nationality of this hmdne guy, possibly Arabic.
morpunkee··on Ruby removed “Participants will be tolerant of opposing views” from its CoC
In this sense, that they would help protect the community from trolls - yes they are defensible. But otherwise, I would unfortunately disagree. It's like an argument that we should lock everyone in cages, so they wouldn't hurt themselves.
morpunkee··on Ruby removed “Participants will be tolerant of opposing views” from its CoC
Protected class is a programming term ;)
morpunkee··on Ruby removed “Participants will be tolerant of opposing views” from its CoC
Apparently this mailing list comment triggered this reaction:

http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/cgi-bin/scat.rb/ruby/ruby-talk/...

morpunkee··on Ruby removed “Participants will be tolerant of opposing views” from its CoC
https://github.com/ruby/www.ruby-lang.org/pull/2691/files