mrhands69

You're making too much sense; someone is going to call you a conspiracy theorist.

I think the argument is a fallacy in general. For people that keep making this argument: Stop beating around the bush and just come out and say you want zero covid at all costs.

The emergency has been everywhere and ongoing for almost 2 years now. At what point do they make an effort and the government says "Hey, let's permanently bolster our hospital systems. We'll hire X amount of 'surge' staff, create X amount of 'surge' beds".

But we don't do that. Instead we act surprised every time there's a surge, the media feeds off it and everyone starts infighting. I'm not convinced hospital capacity is really the problem people say it is.

Why haven't we spent time bolstering healthcare then? Why have all the field hospitals been destroyed as fast as they were put up?

Because lockdowns are detrimental to society (mental health, division, etc). Why can't we take a level headed approach. It seems like our approaches don't take into any consideration past experiences with similar viruses, or leverage data. We have a lot more data this time around.

> Assuming the worst-case scenario until proven otherwise doesn't work like that. You have to look at the entire range of uncertainty, and choose the worst-case scenario for each question.

It seems to me the worst case scenario is always applied when looking at things like natural immunity from prior infection, long covid, etc

If you model Sars-Cov-2 after Sars-Cov-1 or MERS then you would be lead to believe natural immunity lasts around 5+ years.

Where is worst case scenario not applied? Anything to do with vaccines. We're not even allowed to question it.

We are extremely conservative on one side of the coin, but not the other. Why?

I'm not anti-vax. My entire family has all their vaccinations. I'm responding to OP of this thread. I think it's a valid observation.

I'm all for the approach of not overwhelming healthcare. After the initial surge health care was not overwhelmed regardless of approaches to restrictions. Look at Florida vs California: They had same outcome with opposite approaches.

You can distrust a car dealer and society will applaud you for doing what's right. If you say you're losing trust in something like an emergency use vaccination, then society will say you're a death cultist.

What's the percentage of the population in the United States that can't get vaccinated for health reasons?

I can get a source in a bit. IIRC it was the spike protein that causes some (still unknown) response from the human body. The mRNA vaccine elicit a response from the immune system to reproduce the spike protein.

Show people mortality rates for various things around the world. I wonder how the ones banging the "civil responsibility" drum would react.

People can essentially get "long-covid" from the vaccine. Unfortunately, people are afraid to talk about it for fear of being labeled an antivax-er.

What is the risk for people who are vaccinated? There should be some level of personal responsibility at this point. Everyone has had a chance to get the vaccine.