In the end, HR should extract the most value for the company, trying to combine interest of both employees/company into calculation. Sometime, the interest of an individual manager is not what is in the best interest of the company.
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In the end, HR should extract the most value for the company, trying to combine interest of both employees/company into calculation. Sometime, the interest of an individual manager is not what is in the best interest of the company.
The various gravitational forces within company eventually pull the company apart.
As you said, third way governance is really the key. At the end of the day founders in some cases should become chairman, to ensure that everything is functioning as set by constitution. Going into retirement and enjoying pension/stock options should be more common.
While this is good while the founder is alive, it sort of begs the question how long will the company that has structure like that run after the founder is gone. I believe it could go to some family foundation that controls the company, but I guess that is still prone to corruption.
I think that there are a lot of interesting examples in gaming industry - founders start something and they are pushed from the company due to acquisition or by the shareholders. Let us not forget hostile takeovers too.
As for startups - I think that it depends a lot from where you come from. For example, being in Europe, Serbia, it is a lot harder to bootstrap startup or to find investors. The best bet is organizing startup as a C corp in Delaware via something like Stripe Atlas in order to get (hopefully) some foreign investors interested. Investors here want to extract value before there is one there, which is a short term thinking. This in turn lead to risk aversion, opening the country for outsourcing model which is now collapsing and where there is small percentage of product based companies.
Also, an HR that has a right education can and will pushback against decisions that do not make sense such as removing employee that has essential know-how knowledge and that brings a value to the team.
The problem is that a lot of people in management do not want to hear feedback and only want to be surrounded by positive thinking and people that they can micromanage (even while the ship is sinking). Hiring people that do not have right education is basically a way to avoid any feedback and criticism, while having people that will do work that they are not really educated for, but happy because of the salary.
Another problem is gender disproportion in this field.
You can't expect a literature major in HRBP role to understand micro and macro organization of the business and how it is affected by various stuff.
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My experience is mainly focused on human resources, administration and legal work ranging from contracts, advice on case, paperwork, recruiting, and any other administrative and HR task. In general one of the differences from the others that are doing the same thing is that I somewhat technical background due to being involved in few different projects during the years, so I can easily communicate with developers and also see when there is an actual issue in production or if someone is just delaying something or bluffing during interview. I also having managing experience, as I have been managing director of recruitment agency.
For those that want to open local office in Serbia, I can also help with that task and setting up teams, legal framework and other stuff necessary for opening office on new location.
The only need for any kind of investors in this case is really due to scaling as time goes, both in regards to infrastructure and employees.
Truth be told, the Sales or Business Development in this case is something that is key in order to break the ice in terms of B2B so that it would get others potentially interested in trying it out and using it.
Believe me, as European, too much bureaucracy and administration is something that is killing industry here.
With that said, I am open to any financing outside of Europe that invests in European startups/companies.
What it really comes to is that a lot of people love to micromanage everything. If you hire someone that has integrity and educational background in subject, he/she will warn you if the decision you are making will have consequences in the long run. If you have someone that does not have relevant education, that simply does not happen. The managers micromanage, those people receive salaries and if they step out of the line even when they are right, they are reminded that they do not have relevant knowledge in said department (law/economy). This in turn leads to a lot of people gaining something called shallow experience which then in turns leads those people to hire someone that des not pose the risk to their position further down the line.
The problem being in this case is that there are a lot of misses that happen when the HR is organized like that; from illegal hirings, not knowing key economic factors, not having a clue about the business itself, no clue about laws and procedures and so on. Which in turn does not really protect the company because the company loses both the money and employees.
email: nikolas(at)grindam.com
My experience is mainly focused on human resources, administration and legal work ranging from contracts, advice on case, paperwork, recruiting, and any other administrative and HR task. In general one of the differences from the others that are doing the same thing is that I somewhat technical background due to being involved in few different projects during the years, so I can easily communicate with developers and also see when there is an actual issue in production or if someone is just delaying something or bluffing during interview. I also having managing experience, as I have been managing director of recruitment agency.
As an HR professional, I have seen this happening more and more. To add insult to the wound, most of those companies never respond to applications.
The whole point around it is that is cheaper to use job posting ad to advertise yourself than to pay real advertisement in form of banner or sponsored text ad. Most of those come minimum retention date, and are a lot more expensive.
TLDR; The decision of managers in general to have HR from all forms of education, except from legal, has been the main reason for HR ineffectiveness, bias, discrimination and other problem among them prejudice that HR is on the side of the company. When you don't have knowledge, and you work in HR, you need to prove loyalty to the management and be executioner of a lot unpopular decisions, and obedient. They don't understand the legal background for a lot of stuff or managerial, especially when it comes to layoffs. So they only option is to either listen or get replace. And, this will stay the same, since any HR will not allow any HR candidate to get hired in the company that has more knowledge. Those that do not have the knowledge will fight tooth and nail to keep their job despite their lack of knowledge.
Aside from that there is a visible gender discrimination in the sector towards men as well the education discrimination. When these two are combined, they act as gatekeepers, which makes the whole sector worse.
Less psychologist and more law and economy graduates was how it was before. For them the communication is the key aspect of their careers, so most of them have it under their thumb. No one really complained about old Personnel Departments and the info was there and they were actually knowledgeable about their job.
The education really can make difference sometime. As we can see, these two do not know how to handle situation, and are repeating the speech that most of the people probably already heard, without thinking.
Hell, I think that someone could make HR AI that would do the better job.
The other way for him would be to setup legal entity so that you could work with him as contractor or Freelancer. In some countries, such as my own (Serbia), freelancers can be payed directly, without the need for them to setup any kind o f entity or register with EoR. You should check if something like that exists for your employee.