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A huge wave of immigration from people fleeing the effects of climate change or meaningfully extending average lifetimes could change the calculation of population "collapse."

==Most these individuals sat around hedonically watching TV, smoking weed, or drinking.==

Is this from your personal experience or is there a study that shows this outcome?

== When someone is out of line, you used to be able to rely on the public to correct that behavior. Now if you try, you're the bad guy==

I think people “mind their own business” out of concern for their own safety. The increases in gun ownership, road rage incidents, and mass shootings has certainly impacted my impulse to correct someone in public.

Big government is bad.

Unless there is a book, drug, or out-group we can use big government to control.

I find it odd how people refuse to admit that Musk has made some errors. He is a human who takes big swings, and has his share of failures to prove it. It's ok to admit that. I'll note, there is no mention of "Thud" [0], another failure of his.

==Acquired by Tesla, who remains a major supplier of residential solar panels.==

Tesla bought Solar City for $2.6 billion in 2016. In 2019, they targeted 1,000 installations a week. In 7 years, Tesla has installed a total of 3,000 solar systems, getting to about 20 installations a week. Add in the fact that he purchased the company from his own cousins and the story looks worse. [1]

==Still a company.==

It is still an existing company, but that doesn't make it a success. Founded 7 years ago, has built one actively used tunnel. They also had to change the entire idea (it's actually just Teslas driving underground).

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thud_(media_company)

[1] https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/30/tesla-has-installed-3000-sol...

== It looks like another one of those sincere efforts to prove that people who have different worldviews from the authors are just stupid.==

Your comment reads as the same, just in the opposite direction.

== And people love to vote up those papers because they assume that it scientifically proves their belief system is the correct one and the other guys are just dumb.==

Or maybe they find the results useful/insightful. I don’t think being cynical about other people’s motives really helps us understand human behavior.

Could you share your source please? I am getting conflicting results. The recently released American Time Use Survey 2022 [0] has it closer to 9 hours. Those 9 hours also include "naps and spells of sleeplessness."

[0] https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/atus.pdf

== Is is because a lot of people just really have nothing to contribute to the world?==

Perhaps they simply have a different definition of “contribute”?

Seems there are plenty of things for other people to look at given the download and signup data.

The linked article might help clarify things. The percentage of power from coal and nuclear power were both down considerably:

“The electricity production from lignite was down 21 percent, hard coal was down 23 percent, natural gas was down 4 percent, and nuclear declined by 57 percent, compared to 2022 values.”

If someone believes a technology is revolutionary, investing money in it is the most rational thing to do, right?

The same could be said about the microprocessor or any other tech innovation throughout history. They all lead to new companies chasing investment dollars.

Is there any insight from this observation?

I think we are in a loop. All the cars are big, so the only way to feel safe when driving is to have a big car.

Just look at Ford trucks. The current Ranger is as big as the old F-150. Everything is a quad cab, 20 years ago those were rare.

Or maybe we can see through the national news' political agenda and sensationalism.

The people who actually live in Chicago just elected a progressive mayor who ran against a "tough-on-crime" candidate. Maybe those people (the ones living in the city) see things differently than you (someone not living in the city).

==Normal people have completely soured on the idea that we can hug our way out of these areas completely overrun with crime.==

Complete strawman, arguing against a policy that nobody has ever proposed. It seems you are the one crying wolf while pointing at everyone else.

Limited examples? The consent decree alone comes from decades of datapoints collected by the Federal government. You should read it.

I live in Chicago and have no idea what you are talking about. The local newspapers and tv are constantly talking about these issues. Crime and CPS were by far the primary discussions in the recent election. Who and where are these people refusing to talk about them?

==no more dysfunctional, shameful organization exists in this country than CPS==

Are you not familiar with the CPD (Chicago Police Department)? The police probably have more of an impact on the topic at hand (crime and violence) than CPS.

They are far more shameful, dysfunctional, and incompetent than CPS. From forced confessions [1] to planting drugs [2] to electing radical leaders [3]. They are on a Federal consent decree because of their ineptitude and violations of civil rights [4].

[1] https://news.wttw.com/2017/09/22/chicago-really-false-confes...

[2] https://news.wttw.com/2021/11/04/judge-tosses-5-more-convict...

[3] https://chicago.suntimes.com/2022/4/21/23036206/fop-fraterna...

[4] http://chicagopoliceconsentdecree.org/