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overflowstack··on ACLU of California Statement: White Supremacist Violence Is Not Free Speech
Do you have examples of right wing violence at modern day right wing protests that don't have counter protesters?
overflowstack··on ACLU of California Statement: White Supremacist Violence Is Not Free Speech
Racism and hate speech are not indications of future violence.

You can go to any internet space and find thousands of hateful and racist people. The chances of any of them committing violence is extremely low.

overflowstack··on ACLU of California Statement: White Supremacist Violence Is Not Free Speech
> Antifa shows up when right wing violence is expected.

Right wing violence is not expected until Antifa show up. If Antifa don't show up, there is no expected violence.

overflowstack··on Selection bias is the most powerful force in education
I'm not a fan of bussing. It is unfair to the good kids. "Bad" kids know how to deal with other "bad" kids. They grow up in that environment and know the rules of the game.

Good kids grow up in a different environment. The consequences of not knowing to handle oneself around "bad" kids are very high. There is no doubt that on average "bad" kids are much bigger bullies with lower empathy.

The consequences of not knowing how to conduct oneself around good kids as a "bad" kid are much lower in severity. For the most part, the parents of good kids set limits to the aggression of their children. For example, the biggest social rejects at my upper middle class schools weren't ever really bullied. People pitied the complete rejects and most people thought anyone who would bully the rejects is a complete douchebag.

I can't imagine how the social rejects or even the normal nerdy kids at my high school would have fared at a "bad" school.

Then there is the minority immigrant issue. Segregation is good for certain minority groups that do not have the language skills and cultural knowledge to integrate into America. They segregate themselves into a separate community that can provide support for its members. Desegregating these communities and their children will have negative effects.

The children of these immigrants will have the worst time dealing with the "bad" kids because they may have stunted language skills and lack cultural knowledge and context to be able to effectively navigate bad situations.

And to get a better picture of the winners and losers:

- > 90% of African Americans are born in America (and presumably have parents, family and connections who know English and understand American culture).

- Spanish is ubiquitous in the USA and the Hispanic population is huge. Hispanic people have a much lower need to congregate into a community compared to other minorities.

overflowstack··on Selection bias is the most powerful force in education
> because all the other students are doing well the bad students peers are working hard so the bad student sees that example and is likely to succumb to peer pressure and do better

What about the non-troubled kids? How much of a negative effect can a few troubled kids have on non-troubled kids?

One kid acting out in a class can ruin the learning atmosphere for the entire class.