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False. Opera has said they will contribute to both WebKit and Chromium.
> But it is the case here when Opera is using an enormous codebase by a huge corporation
WebKit is not Google's codebase.
> almost all the work on Opera's new browser will be done by Google. That is why I said "outsourcing development to Google"
According to that logic, using any open-source component is outsourcing development. Doesn't make sense.
Why would they be terrified of speaking in public -- and if they are, why are several people doing it?
You say that speculating is not particularly useful, and you still speculate that people are terrified of Opera Software, and that the company is lying to its investors about the number of employees?
Operators are less than 20%. Desktop is the second biggest with nearly 30%, while publishing/advertising is the biggest revenue source with more than 40%.
Are you seriously suggesting that the company is using threats of physical violence to shut former employees up?
Who cares about the founder? He previously said he wouldn't necessarily block an acquisition. And if Opera wanted to be acquired, why are they doing business like usual, and even buying up other companies?
Using the Chromium framework doesn't mean that you are using the actual final Chromium UI. The CEO himself said they're building a new UI.
Differentiation doesn't take place in the browser engine. It take splace in the UI. Most people have no idea which engine they are using, and they don't care.
Your comment doesn't make sense. It's wild speculation based on an article with false statements.
All the comments so far therefore seem to be based on the misconception that they fired their entire Presto development team.
I thought HN was better than this.
If so, why even mention Opera specifically then?
What you can gather doesn't seem to be very useful either since the quoted number is correct. It's the number of employees reported by Opera to the authorities. But maybe in your conspiracy, Opera manipulates those numbers to lie to the authorities for some unknown, sinister reason?
How is the current management different from the previous management? Didn't the previous management fire anyone? Oh, they did? And they made up some BS reason to justify it?
Do you know what the reason is stated to be this time around, or did you just assume that they are firing random people to strike fear in people's hearts?
My Gawd.
Edit: Regarding people living in fear, here's one of the former employees speaking out:
"The process, from Opera’s side, was done, IMO, very professionally and the severance package we were offered was voluntary as well as substantial."
Not quite. They always made every effort to be as compatible as possible with real world sites.
Except that is not true. Opera has a high tolerance, probably much higher than any other browser (out of necessity). But that doesn't help much if you're being blocked or sites constantly find new bugs in other browsers they decide to work around and thereby breaking it in any browser that is not one of the top 3.
Why do you think Google is desperate to enter these markets right now?
This is misleading nonsense. You led people to believe that they would just make a copy of Chrome, but they will obviously not just compile Chromium and give it a new name. They will most likely bring the entire Quick framework and their existing UI to the Chromium framework.
How so? Like Chrome copied Safari because they're both using Webkit?
> They'll continue to be the browser that nobody cares about (aside from six people who are no doubt here in this thread somewhere), but your site will probably render fine on it.
That's the problem for you Opera bashers. It will now have room to grow and get a much bigger user base on PCs.