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Anyway, I'm still writing the vast majority of code by hand and only getting AI to check my work at the end as an extra reviewer. I still am happily employed and sure am a lot happier with my job than the slop goobers posting here.
Multiple studies have come out recently that AI use when not used as a tutor leads to loss of learning. It's a great way to ensure you end up jobless in the future when you forget even very basic syntax from no longer having to deal with hard problems. It's why pilots still fly manually by hand even though the autopilot can do practically everything.
I can virtually guarantee the bar for code can go so much lower as we rapidly deskill programmers.
That doesn't exactly inspire confidence that this product will stick around.
I know because I've tried practically all of their AI product offerings and not a single one feels coherent.
The docs say that none of the code has been reviewed or tested properly, so how serious is this for people to run in a production setup where many companies are going are not going to be super enthused that their production environment has been 'vibecoded' in a week? It just reads to me like a not-so-subtle middle finger to the Vercel guys.
On a side note, I find it extremely weird that the current AI era of software development is turning the state of the entire field into a reenactment of Lord of the Flies. Bizarre behavior all around from people who should know better.
I think it's still early days, and it's probably the case that a lot of software development teams have yet to realize that a team basically just doing PR reviews is a strong indication that a codebase is very quickly trending away from maintainability. Our team is still heavily using LLMs and coding agents, but our PR backlog recently has been very manageable.
I suspect we'll start seeing a lot of teams realize they're inundated with tech debt as soon as it becomes difficult for even LLMs to maintain their codebases. The "go fast and spit out as much code as humanly possible" trend that I think has infected software development will eventually come back to bite quite a few companies.
Anytime I think the AI bubble can't go any higher I'm reminded of the fact there are people who genuinely believe this. These are the people boardrooms are listening to despite the evidence for actual developer productivity savings being dubious at best: https://metr.org/blog/2025-07-10-early-2025-ai-experienced-o...
I think the reason for all of this is actually fairly boring. Someone with a history of mental illness and/or schizophrenia filing fraudulent documents and writing nonsense chatGPT code assuming it is some kind of AGI-singularity-oracle. It wouldn't be the first time I've seen someone with a history of mental illness assume these systems are more capable than what they actually are in reality.
I’m getting Déjà vu
I suppose if your POV is very narrow and limited, then yes it is impossible. But giving up easily when things become difficult is a Canadian cultural staple, so rural dying towns for everyone it is.
The arguments are valid and you haven’t provided a single counterpoint. Data leakage is a well known problem in machine learning and OpenAI has seemingly done very little to mitigate against it.
Alpine is just not designed with that sort of application in mind, nor should it be.