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founder: https://causal.app twitter: @TaimurAbdaal blog: https://taimur.me
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refrigerator··on List animals until failure
Very fun and impressive to do this without LLMs!

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refrigerator··on Launch HN: Design Arena (YC S25) – Head-to-head AI benchmark for aesthetics
Great concept — definitely needed and will hopefully push the labs to improve design abilities of models!
refrigerator··on Thank HN: My bootstrapped startup got acquired today
Amazing, congrats man!!
refrigerator··on Should We Use AI and LLMs for Christian Apologetics?
Would love to chat to it — please publish online!
refrigerator··on UK's hardware talent is being wasted
This is spot on. All the smart and ambitious people I know who studied (non-software) Engineering at university in the UK have ended up going into software engineering via self-teaching or finance/consulting because the only hardware engineering career paths seem to be working for Rolls Royce in the middle of nowhere with terrible pay, or alternatively working at Jaguar Land Rover in the middle of nowhere with terrible pay
refrigerator··on Tell HN: We (Causal) got acquired – thank you HN
Thanks! Definitely keen to start something again eventually, but in no rush right now :)
refrigerator··on Tell HN: We (Causal) got acquired – thank you HN
Thanks man!
refrigerator··on Tell HN: We (Causal) got acquired – thank you HN
We started as a US company in 2019 to make fundraising easier, and I think this did have a material impact. It's operationally quite annoying, but chances are that we would have had to do it eventually, to efficiently employ US people without paying Deel extortionate fees
refrigerator··on Tell HN: We (Causal) got acquired – thank you HN
Lucanet approached us a few months ago, we were open to taking a couple of meetings to learn more, and they sold us on the acquisition pretty well
refrigerator··on Tell HN: We (Causal) got acquired – thank you HN
We will likely stay focused on financial planning rather than go broad on all the rest of the spreadsheet use cases
refrigerator··on Tell HN: We (Causal) got acquired – thank you HN
That’s awesome! Thanks for using Causal and really glad you like it.

Nothing will change for existing users so you can keep using it for sure :)

refrigerator··on Tell HN: We (Causal) got acquired – thank you HN
Yup we’re sticking around and leading the Causal business unit within Lucanet
refrigerator··on Tell HN: We (Causal) got acquired – thank you HN
Thanks!
refrigerator··on Tell HN: We (Causal) got acquired – thank you HN
Thank you!
refrigerator··on Tell HN: We (Causal) got acquired – thank you HN
Thanks!
refrigerator··on Tell HN: We (Causal) got acquired – thank you HN
Thanks! We hope to get back on the pod :)

I think the spreadsheet space is honestly super challenging. There’s lots of possible use-cases for these tools, but also, Excel/Sheets are great products that everyone already knows how to use.

I think if these products nail some core use-case(s) that are valuable enough to build the core business around, then this can probably get you to “escape velocity” and you can start to become a truly horizontal tool as traction and awareness compound. (This is the path we were going for)

Lots of spreadsheet type products have tried to stay very horizontal from the beginning and end up trying to boil the ocean, or ended up focusing on a dead-end use-case that isn’t valuable enough to reach that escape velocity.

refrigerator··on Tell HN: We (Causal) got acquired – thank you HN
Thank you!
refrigerator··on Tell HN: We (Causal) got acquired – thank you HN
Without getting into numbers, it’s more than we would have been able to make at, say, a big tech job over the same time period (5 years)
refrigerator··on Tell HN: We (Causal) got acquired – thank you HN
Thanks!

We didn’t have an end goal in mind from the beginning — we had the idea for the product and wanted to see if it had legs as a business, and then grow it and see where we could take it.

From what I recall, I don’t think this kind of acquisition was on our radar in the early days — we expected the startup game to be much more binary (massive outcome or bust), and this was the standard narrative at the time.

We’re fortunate to have landed in a middle ground that more founders should be aware of earlier on (and I think awareness is increasing).

Not a massive outcome by VC standards, but still a win for us, our team, our customers, our product, and our early investors, and not the end of the journey yet!

refrigerator··on Tell HN: We (Causal) got acquired – thank you HN
Ah awesome, thanks!!
refrigerator··on Tell HN: We (Causal) got acquired – thank you HN
Product acquisition, we’ll be continuing to grow Causal at Lucanet, lots of potential to cross-sell into their existing customer base :)
refrigerator··on Tell HN: We (Causal) got acquired – thank you HN
Thank you!
refrigerator··on Tell HN: We (Causal) got acquired – thank you HN
Thanks man!
refrigerator··on Causal Joins the Lucanet Group
Hi, CEO of Causal here — Lucanet has been around for ~25 years and their product is very mature, but it's also very good software. Super high NPS and metrics, really quick time-to-value, extremely happy and sticky customers, etc. The UI might not follow the latest startup trends, but don't be fooled by that :)
refrigerator··on Show HN: Causal 2.0 – Modern Financial Planning for Startups
The UI is definitely similar and no doubt that we're competitors, but under the hood I think we've taken somewhat different approaches to how the product works :)
refrigerator··on Show HN: Causal 2.0 – Modern Financial Planning for Startups
Definitely — we have a bunch of users doing that kind of stuff in Causal as well. The product is completely general-purpose (a bit like a spreadsheet), but for business reasons, we're trying to keep our messaging and targeting much more specific to the startups/SMB financial planning use-case :)
refrigerator··on Show HN: Causal 2.0 – Modern Financial Planning for Startups
Thanks! We are still very much a general purpose tool, but until we're a household name like Notion or Airtable, we kind of concluded that we'll need to be much more specific about our messaging/targeting until we reach that critical mass!
refrigerator··on Show HN: Causal 2.0 – Modern Financial Planning for Startups
We’ve done some marketing partnerships with Ramp before, would be great to eventually get that data live in Causal!
refrigerator··on Show HN: Causal 2.0 – Modern Financial Planning for Startups
Yup we’ve done that a bunch - please fill in the form and we’d love to consider :)
refrigerator··on Show HN: Causal 2.0 – Modern Financial Planning for Startups
Feel free to drop me an email (taimur [at] causal [dot] app) and I'd be happy to introduce you to him :)
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