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BTW we don't say "mamma mia" so much, in that way, maybe you should check what you think of other cultures, before getting offended for a software using the name GIMP

So the edit, yeah, was to prove a point: Americans can't accept that their culture is meaningless globally and their puritans problems have no significance for 95% of the World population.

This isn't Reddit, I known this is a circle jerk of people thinking they are better than redditors just because it's what you are supposed to think here.

On Reddit at least people don't downvote you without commenting on why

I have no problem with English

I speak Italian as native language, for me GIMP is just a name, like the BALKARP IKEA sofa, I consider it a bunch of letter stuck together that represent something, but don't mean anything and if they sound like something real, it doesn't really matter.

I also speak English, Spanish, some French, some German

Of course I would never call my product "ugly bitch" but of course I wouldn't also call it pizza

And yet Martin Odersky language before Scala was named pizza

I wouldn't call it merda (it means shit, in the worst possible way)

There's an American band called black merda (in Italian it translates as black shit) they used it because it sound like murder in English

You have to understand that English is not the Lingua franca of anything, at best English spoken by non native English people is

You have to accept that speaking someone else's language doesn't mean you have to accept every cultural issue that people born with it might have

Photoshop is as ridiculous as gimp and I would never take seriously a software in Italian that is called "negozio di foto" from a company called "addobbo" for the operating system "finestre" or "mela"

It's something that would make me think of the kindergarten

But I accept it, ridiculous as they sound, because they are just brands, you get used to it and live on

GIMP is the best of the lotto because it means GNU image manipulation program, it's the most professional name of them all

And GNU is not the animal, is an acronym

If English people have a problem with their language, it's not a global problem

and btw, what all of you are getting wrong by supporting this infinite rant on the name of this particular program that come out every single time it is mentioned, is that the name is GIMP the all uppercase acronym not gimp the noun

Like IBM or IKEA or SKYPE or YAHOO (yes, they are all acronyms, funny that nobody seems to have anything to say about the professionalism of a software whose name is pronounced "sky pee" while billionaire CEOs use it and refer to it all the time...)

It's a GNU tradition to use them

Only who knows nothing about GNU and free software could find it offensive

Scala means ladder in Italian and Sega means handjob

The French Word fiche means casino token and has been popularized by American Casinos and movies, yet in Italian it reads fike and it's a quite vulgar slur which literally means vaginas but it's used to say "nice looking girls"

It's the plural of fica, which sounds exactly like the Swedish fika, that means coffee break

You can imagine how that sound for an Italian to be offered a fika

Lumia means prostitute in Spanish

BTW a preservative in French is a condom...

The world does not speak English as a native language

Edit: but, as usual, judging from the immediate downvote Americans won't accept that they are only 5% of the World population...

Right

Because windows, word, pages, apple, oracle, chrome, snort, evil-mode, mongodb, cockroachdb (etc. etc.) are all great names that make you think of real professionals at work that infact failed because they are childish

> You’re forgetting about all the indirect meat we eat

Why do you assume I am forgetting something?

Do yo have some special power that lets you know what other people know or don't know?

I simply posted a well respected and openly published statistics created by international organizations devoted to food, one of them is called FAO.

Do you know it?

Second: any "non meat related meat" is also in pets food, because, surprise surprise, IT'S THE SAME FOOD REPACKAGED.

> I’m pretty sure

Yeah, I was pretty sure you were going to be pretty sure, without having actual knowledge.

There's a thing called methodology in statics, you should check it out.

The stats I posted used this methodology

> The figures tabulated below do not represent per capita amounts of meat eaten by humans. Instead, they represent FAO figures for carcass mass availability (with "carcass mass" for poultry estimated as ready-to-cook mass),[2] divided by population. The amount eaten by humans differs from carcass mass availability because the latter does not account for losses, which include bones, losses in retail and food service or home preparation (including trim and cooking), spoilage and "downstream" waste, and amounts consumed by pets (compare dressed weight)

So, in short, human meat consumption in this stats is always overstated (for good reasons, we produce it anyway, it's not coming from outer space).

> For example, the FAO (2002) figure for Denmark, which has one of the highest meat export rates compared to its population, was 145.9 kg (322 lb) (highest in the world). More recent FAO figures (2009) have taken the earlier discrepancy into account, resulting in a significantly lower 95.2 kg (210 lb) for Denmark (13th in the world). When further adjusted for loss, calculations by DTU Fødevareinstituttet suggest the actual consumption was 48 kg (106 lb) per adult

But your cat instead eats 300 grams of meat everyday, there's no margin of error, multiplied by 365 days it amount to 109,5 kgs.

Make no mistake, your cat could be actually eating 2.28 times more meat than the average Danish person.

> the cat food is usually between 40 and 90% meat while the rest is fillers

While instead humans eat only filet and steaks, no bones, no fat, nothing else, only steaks, right?

Well, haggis would like to show you something.

Also, the centenarian Italian tradition of cooking entrails would like a word.

If you seat at a table with my mom and her four sisters, they constantly fight to eat the neck and feet of the chicken.

While my sister prefers the liver and the giblets.

I, on the other hand, love the "fagioli con le cotiche" (beans and pork rind) cooked in the pignata and served with a tomato sauce cooked together with an ham bone. What's not to love?

https://www.nerinoumbro.it/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Fagiol...

> My cat eats something like 300g of food per day

Multiplied for 365 days a year it's more or less 110-120kg of meat

The average European human eats less than 90kg of meat a year (which is already a lot)

So a cat eats on average 25-30% more meat than an European human

Dennet wrote a lot about animal perceptions and self consciousness

It's hard to tell if the life they live makes some difference for the individual

It's hard for us humans to fathom it, but is it for them?

We still don't know for sure.

https://lafavephilosophy.x10host.com/dennett_anim_csness.htm...

At what cost?

Fast fashion and cheap and disposable clothes is many times worse than an animal coat that can easily last 80 years.

Reuse is an important part of sustainability.

At least it provides pleasure

Don't get me wrong, I love vegetables, but meat it's not worse, abuse is.

Like the abuse of avocadoes

Not disagreeing with you either, but as an Italian it's not the C, it's the combination of C and other letters after it.

Cane (dog) and cena (dinner) in Italian are two examples of soft and hard C that depend on which vowel follows the letter C.

It wasn't like that originally, Roman C sounded always like K, Caesar was pronounced Kaesar (German's Kaiser comes from it).

Than middle age came and things changed, but the pronunciation stayed consistent after that

C+a, C+o, C+u = hard C

C+e, C+i = soft C

So it's not simply about "what you write is what you get" but it's the rule that is consistently the same

Phonetically the examples above are unambiguous though

Soft c = voiceless postalover affricate

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiceless_postalveolar_affri...

hard c = Voiceless velar plosive

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiceless_velar_plosive

They are not exactly what you write, but they have precise phonetic symbols expressing how they sound (which is not always how they look on paper)

I guess as an Italian I don't see China as a bigger threat and probably China is less interested in harvesting my data for the reason that they are not selling me anything by targeting me whenever I do something on the internet?

I speak English, I don't speak Chinese, my continent is watching the US elections tonight, it doesn't happen with Chinese politics, my pears stay awake at night to watch the Oscars, I don't even know if the Chinese equivalent exist, basically what US does is much more relevant in day to day life, what happens in China stays in China, so they are not really trying to buy my attention, which is the most valuable asset I own.

Yes, but even considering this particular case, it is consistent

Au in French is never pronounced as it is written (like augen in German or aulico in Italian), but always as a O

Once you know the rules it's pretty easy

Also French (like Italian, Spanish and others) have accents to help you decide how to pronounce a word

Now consider these popular examples of English inconsistencies

The bandage was wound around his leg to cover his wound.

The insurance on the invalid was invalid

I did not object to the object.

Don't know why you are being downvoted, but I agree with your reasoning.

I've worked most of my career in places where technology was king and AWS is certainly technologically ahead of its competitors.

Fast forward a couple decades and I ended up in financial institutions where economics is king and they don't use AWS, not as much as they should, if you listen to the average internet guru.

Not because AWS doesn't do what they say it does, but because economically it's not advantageous, at least until it is.

Which is not at the beginning.

To put it in simple words: they don't ask "are we ready to scale" but instead "are we making money out of this".

Answering to both responses to my post: as an European citizen I know that technically US is better at doing data collection, even more so because it's a "friend" country and we can't wait to give our data to them

But my question really is: does it really matter to me, provided that the data is gonna be collected anyway, who does it?

They're both, at my eyes, not doing it to my advantage.

As an European, does it really make a difference?

Is USA really much better than China?

> I think expats anywhere should integrate

That's exactly what I was talking about.

I will talk about Americans simply because I know what they do when they live abroad in my country, for many reasons, one being they hang out in the same neighborhood I was born and raised.

Probably there are similar problems with people from my country somewhere, but let me tell you what I know first.

Here in Italy American tourists are less of a problem, they do silly things sometimes, but who doesn't in an mostly unknown country on the other side of the World?

As you said, the real problem come from expats, students for example, but also military personnel who usually form walled enclaves.

If you hang out in certain neighborhoods in Rome, it's very easy to spot the "Americans only" places. There are quite of few of them.

The reasoning is simple: they come here in Europe for the culture and the relaxed way of living (Barcelona is ranked very high among expats from US exactly for that reason) but they don't have the cultural tools to handle the lack of restrictions they have to face home.

Drinking at the age of 16 is quite normal in Europe, it is not in USA and more often than not Americans are the ones sh*tfaced outside bars and clubs or engaged in alcohol fueled scuffles.

One can argue that's what youngsters do, we are not used to that, but at young age (almost) everyone is forgivable.

Except when they kill police officers in the streets of course

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/27/world/europe/italy-police...

But there's also another cultural issue with them: they are used to be a ruling country, they don't accept to be questioned or put in their place or be simply asked to act as a reasoning person.

Consider that for a US citizen until not long ago Canada, Mexico and many cruises were passport free (but not the contrary), consider the fact that in Europe there are many US military bases, consider that police officers in Europe are not heavily armed and you end up with situations like this one

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2020/01/23/us-troops-vic...

When I was in LA my friends told me to avoid certain parts of the city because they were dangerous, "how much dangerous?" I asked, I come from Rome after all, I know how to handle myself, "you can get shot" they told me.

Turns out LA this year will top the 2009 for number of homicides and reach the staggering number of 300 homicides in a year.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-10-29/gangs-ho...

In Chicago on June 2020 there have been 18 homicides in 24 hours.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2020/6/8/21281998/chicago...

I don't know but I suppose that it is something that it is considered I won't say normal, but not far from something in USA they expect from a city like LA.

Maybe not 300 homicides in a year, but 200? Maybe yes.

In Rome, a bit smaller than LA, more or less the same size of Chicago, there were 12 homicides in the whole 2019.

In the entire Italy (60 million people) in 2019 homicides were "only" 276.

I couldn't believe it when I was staying there that dangerous really meant "Escape from New York" dangerous.

My point is it's easy to say to expat to "integrate" when you are living in a violent society and where police on the street is armed to the teeth enforcing God only knows what law.

It's much less easy to adapt to foreigners when they are the ones not integrating and bringing their violent culture at your doorstep.

I think this answer might interest you

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24953724

People saying this BS have no idea of what it means to leave everything you know behind and how many home-cultures are simply better than the ones immigrants find themselves living in, but they had to leave because (put the name of some super power) decided that it was the right spot to start a war and destroy everything to seize control of some resource or out of spite to some competing super power

People think they are gifting you, because they don't realize how irrelevant they are and how little control have in their lives, let alone the lives of others.

P.s. if we wanna talk about integration, Americans, for example, should watch themselves abroad.

They are absolutely the less capable of understanding what "this is not the way we do things" means.

I've watched thousands of hours of Americans television over the past 45 years, read a lot of their authors, especially underground and subcultures like comics, I've heard a lot of their music, immersed in a lot of their culture, have many friends who are Americans, I lived there for a few years, but I still think that fully integrating with US culture is a big mistake, because it's simply not relevant enough to give up other cultures.

The more you watch it, the more it's people shooting each other over a bar fight or people killing themselves to get a promotion at work or competing in general over things that have no real connection with happiness.

That's why many don't care about it and spend their time with people more like them that share a common background.

Understanding each other is more important that following every single rule to "integrate" in a culture that have basically no historical background other than avoiding taxes in their homeland.

Mexicans, on the other hand, have been there for millennia.

I guess that's exactly what native Americans should have done

EDIT: I'm sensing a lot of guilty conscience from the downvotes (always appreciated when it's about exposing atrocious ways of thinking) but this time it was simply explaining what the natural consequence of that sentence woul be: US would not exist.

And maybe all of us would be better off, who knows...

> There's a word for people who complain about free things.

You don't complain about the weather?

> Organisms are evolved to utilise short life-spans to quickly adapt changing environmental conditions

They don't utilize short life span, but rapid replication

For many organisms short life span is simply a byproduct of their biology, but take an immortal mosquito and its rapidly evolving offspring will adapt as well as the immortal father did.

Of course immortal mosquitos would never be possible because the equilibrium would collapse if too many mosquitos are alive in a limited resources pool

But humans are not mosquitos

The point is that if now abacus is the most photographed thing in the World, it doesn't mean cameras main purpose is to take pictures of abacus(es? I guess being a Latin word it has no plural)

In the same way youtube-dl is a tool used to download videos from hundreds of website and there is nothing inherently illegal in it even if the majority of users used it to download illegal material from YouTube.

> On what grounds do you think it would constitute fair use?

Can you take a few seconds of a video and show it to a class of students for educational purpose?

Yes, you can

Can you do the same to test a software feature?

Yes, you can

The video is never used or displayed for its commercial value, but only to learn something from it.

> because fair use as a legal concept implies that there has to be a court decision in order to exist.

There are countries where fair use is always permitted unless a court decision prohibits it in that single case.

One of the goals of pre trials is to establish that negative effects, if there are any, aren't caused by other factors other than the drug itself.

It's already hard to prove it on healthy candidates, it's pretty much impossible on candidates whose immune system is already weakened by previous conditions.

If that was true it would be hard to argue that photocameras on smartphones aren't meant to shoot porn or dick pics by the fact that, well, we know why.

youtube-dl works on many other web sites, not only YouTube, and downloading YouTube videos, even if copyrighted, is not a crime per se in many parts of the World

That doesn't make youtube-dl "absolutely illegal".

You should know that "absolutely" means anytime, everywhere, which is obviously wrong.

You should also know that in Italy for something to be claimed illegal the court has to emit a verdict.

If nobody challenge the status of youtube-dl obtaining a guilty verdict, it is perfectly legal.

Last but not least, that law was created during fascmism, so there's also that.

But in any case "fair use"(as you americans call it) is always permitted in Italy, you don't need a license, you are liable only if the entity detaining the copyright obtains a restricting order from a judge.

So in Italy I can download any video I want from YouTube and I am permitted to watch them, It's not against the law.

What's against the law is the re-distribution of the content.

Moreover, you probably misread the law or skipped that passage, in Italy internet publishing (such as file downloading) itś a different right and it's called "exclusive right of communication to the public of the work"

> it also includes the making available to the public of a work in such a way that members of the public may access it from a place and at a time individually chosen by them

Sorry.

> Youtube-dl is absolutely illegal software.

Not in Italy

What US law says is often irrelevant outside of the US of A

Yeah like add features nobody uses for real and remove functions that will break thousands of programs used by millions of people

That is thinking in the future, I'm sure of it