ryan_n

> Just a humble opinion that I would love to see be wrong

Out of curiosity, why would you love to be wrong about that? What possible outcome could you see being a net positive for society if the vast majority of knowledge workers (and ultimately, as robotics progress, most workers in general) are replaced by AI?

> You can choose to use it or not

This is becoming less and less true unless you're specifically talking about usage of it outside of a work environment. Many work places are requiring people to use it and/or tracking usage. I don't know about in academic settings, but I'd imagine it's becoming heavily used there too?

Is all of the other 60 billion mismanaged?

Creatine doesn't need astroturfing.. It's not <frontier AI lab>'s newest model turbo boost max pro extreme rocket 5.9. It's just a supplement that some people take.

From what I've heard for many devs it replaced an IDE... I still use one myself, but I've a lot of people don't anymore.

> but they can't keep getting better indefinitely

Maybe? We dont really know this right? People have been saying this for 5 years now and the models are still getting better. The companies running the frontier models have already scraped everything on the web, but the models are still getting better, even if it's only marginally better, with each release. Maybe eventually some company will actually achieve AGI/ASI, who knows..

this was true a year ago but not so much anymore. You still have to supervise the agents, but they can write maintainable code if you keep an eye on it.

Doesn't OpenAI have a higher general user base than Anthropic?

My point specifically is that some damage isn't recoverable if there's a vulnerability that gives someone root access. This makes the bank analogy inadequate in the first place. Im not trying to argue about whether deposit insurance is good or bad. Saying they would get the money back assumes the damage done to ones machine would be recoverable, which may not be the case.

You're missing the point (not sure if you're just being dense on purpose...). If you're bank would just return the money then its not a good analogy. If someone gains root access to your machine, presumably they can do damage that can't be undone. In other words, to continue the bank analogy, they would take all your money and you would have no way of getting it back. Presumably, you would not be ok with this. And even if, for some weird reason, you were ok with that, 99.9% of all other people would not be ok with it.

You've come full circle and are essentially just describing what the OP was saying in their initial post lol.

So you essentially trust the output of the model from beginning to end? Curious to know what type of application you're building where you can safely do that.

Edit: to clarify, I know these models have gotten significantly better. The output is pretty incredible sometimes, but trusting it end to end like that just seems super risky still.

I don't think that's unpopular, it is pretty well written. But the "I believe" section is extraordinarily hard to believe given Altman's history.

> Working towards prosperity for everyone, empowering all people

> We have to get safety right

> AI has to be democratized; power cannot be too concentrated

None of these statements, IMO, reflect his actions over the past 5 years.

> we urgently need a society-wide response to be resilient to new threats. This includes things like new policy to help navigate through a difficult economic transition in order to get to a much better future

I agree with this, but there is a near 0% chance of that happening anytime soon in the US. I think he probably is aware of this.

Just my opinion, but it comes off as very insincere.

To be clear, what happened is still awful and there's absolutely no justification for it.

"I personally code data structures and algorithms for 1 - 2 hrs a day"

What does this mean? You do leet code problems a few hours a day? Or go through a text book? Genuinely curious.

What do you mean it’s not representative of reality? Or are you just saying you don’t agree with it?

It is kind of funny that people here tend to dump on Reddit a lot (often times warranted, don’t get me wrong), when this place is an echo chamber in a similar way.

Is it that hard to comprehend that some people enjoy writing code by hand just for the sake of coding?

>It does not describe the social media r/childfree mindset people I know at all. They have their bubble of friends they keep in touch with only when they feel like it but that's about it.

Do you actually know a lot of those people? I know a lot of people that don't have kids and they all are very normal, well adjusted people. None of them hate kids. Using the word "breeders" as derogatory is weird, bordering on mentally unwell behavior. I've never met anyone that doesn't have kids that's like that. Even for the few people I've met that don't particularly care for children, they just keep it to themselves.

Reddit I think is not representative of real life for the vast majority of people.

For the record I don’t care if you quit or not. Cash rules after all… However, you are incredibly naive if you think the current admin will follow through on those terms.

That is often how software development has been done the past several decades yea...

Not to say that you don't review your own work, but it's good practice for others (or at least one other person) to review it/QA it as well.

Wow, this guy must be important.

It’s shocking to me that people even ask this type of question. How do you not see the difference between a machine that will hallucinate something random if it doesn’t know the answer vs a human that will logic through things and find the correct answer.

I don’t understand how you’re concluding that the biopsy shouldn’t have happened from that anecdote? Just because a test result is negative doesn’t mean that it shouldn’t have happened. That’s not how practicing medicine works.

I feel like it says a lot if this is the not pessimistic take.

Yea most people earn far less than that in the US too, that’s just hacker news being out of touch

Definitely more common to just use streaming services like Spotify, but some people do own their music library. There’s probably a decent sized overlap of those who buy music and those who self host things like jellyfin

This is awesome, gonna check it out. Thanks! Helpful to look at a big rust project too as I’m learning rust.

Ok, I guess I just didn’t think someday soon meant “the next couple hundred years”. I agree with what you’re saying though.

Most of these AI companies are part of the military industry. So the money is still going there at the end of the day.

“Someday soon”

Based on what exactly makes you think this?