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saghul

1,119 karma · joined April 17, 2011

Fellow Jitster, working on Jitsi.

https://bettercallsaghul.com

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saghul··on JaaS: The team that builds Jitsi can now also run it for you
Please do reach out to us, we just got started and are happy to discuss.
saghul··on JaaS: The team that builds Jitsi can now also run it for you
Yes! You are welcome to build your own UI with lib-jitsi-meet.
saghul··on JaaS: The team that builds Jitsi can now also run it for you
Gotcha. We are thinking about that. Please reach out to us and let's talk about it: jaastech@8x8.com
saghul··on JaaS: The team that builds Jitsi can now also run it for you
When running from a browser, Chrome specially lowers the framerate and prefers higher resolution. Not sure we can tune it for high fps.
saghul··on JaaS: The team that builds Jitsi can now also run it for you
Would love to hear more about those problems. Have you opened GH issues / community posts?
saghul··on JaaS: The team that builds Jitsi can now also run it for you
Yes, it will come back. We have so many things in our plate that not everything can be acted upon in a timely manner. Don't despair :-)
saghul··on JaaS: The team that builds Jitsi can now also run it for you
> I tried to run a Jitsi server. It's a madness full of Docker impossible things to run and a very long and confusing configuration file.

Sorry to hear that. Any chance you can provide some more details on what you tried and didn't work? I'd like to improve on this.

> I wonder why can't these things be provided as binaries with a simple set of settings.

That's kind of what they already are, but at certain degree of complexity it unfortunately leaks back to the user.

saghul··on JaaS: The team that builds Jitsi can now also run it for you
Nope, we're part of the 8x8 happy family now.
saghul··on JaaS: The team that builds Jitsi can now also run it for you
We have no plans for it at this point. We provide native SDKs for Android and iOS and IIRC there is already a 3rd party Flutter module which exposes our native SDKs to Flutter.
saghul··on JaaS: The team that builds Jitsi can now also run it for you
> We would however be interested in switching to JaaS as we’d like to get away from managing our own infra and just host a landing page through, e.g., NextJS on Vercel, with a JaaS iFrame.

This is indeed what we had in mind when building JaaS.

> We have some customisations on the front-end (custom kick messages, auto-enabling lobbies, etc). Is it possible to make these sorts of customisations to JaaS?

Depends on exactly what. As we just launched we are learning what our customers want and adding new APIs and more customization options pretty rapidly. Please get in touch and let's discuss what APIs / customizations you'd need.

> Could you speak generally to the degree of customisation possible outside of the developer web console?

As you mentioned before, the iframe API is indeed the recommended way for integrating.

saghul··on JaaS: The team that builds Jitsi can now also run it for you
Then what are you trying to compare? The pricing includes all video traffic relaying, which is the non-trivial part of these types of setups.
saghul··on JaaS: The team that builds Jitsi can now also run it for you
No. They have a similar offering of their own. We also run our infra on AWS so they are getting business from us already.
saghul··on JaaS: The team that builds Jitsi can now also run it for you
Millions of users per month doing video conferencing?
saghul··on JaaS: The team that builds Jitsi can now also run it for you
> Would be awesome to hear how they are doing the scaling.

Shameless plug: https://fosdem.org/2021/schedule/event/jitsi_scaling/

> so it would really be great to see a supported desktop app for all relevant platforms

We have an Electron based app: https://github.com/jitsi/jitsi-meet-electron

> Also native performance background effects

This is in the works, we have to be able to share some news soon!

saghul··on JaaS: The team that builds Jitsi can now also run it for you
The pricing models are vastly different AFAIK. How are you comparing them?
saghul··on JaaS: The team that builds Jitsi can now also run it for you
Glad to hear this! <3
saghul··on JaaS: The team that builds Jitsi can now also run it for you
> ultimately settled on Daily.co for it's pricing and easy developer experience.

I can't comment on pricing, but would you mind elaborating on the DX part?

> How does JaaS stability compare to Jitsi?

They are the same. JaaS is a different deployment from meet.jit.si, using the same tech.

saghul··on JaaS: The team that builds Jitsi can now also run it for you
> One of the things that makes Jitsi not perfect however is that I understand that Jitsi Videobridge is an SFU, thus not appropriate for a large conference.

On the contrary, this is how you can scale up to large conferences. We do bridge cascading, you can read more about it here: https://jitsi.org/blog/jitsi-meet-now-with-geographical-brid...

We are now working on very large conferences, expect some news soon :-)

saghul··on JaaS: The team that builds Jitsi can now also run it for you
Hey all, saghul from team Jitsi here. Didn't expect this to spread so fast, thanks everyone!

Happy to answer any questions you may have!

saghul··on JaaS: The team that builds Jitsi can now also run it for you
Hey there! Jitsi dev here. What do you have in mind? Feel free to contact us at: jaastech@8x8.com
saghul··on macOS Big Sur
Haven't tried it on Big Sur, but maybe `defaults write NSGlobalDomain AppleFontSmoothing -int 1` does the trick?
saghul··on Origins of the youtube-dl project
TIL the project was started by a fellow Spaniard! Very nice write up, kudos!
saghul··on Calla – spatial video conferencing software based on Jitsi Meet
Jitsi team member here. This looks awesome, kudos and thanks for sharing!
saghul··on Show HN: DevUtils.app – Developer Utilities for macOS
"Don't trust me? Build the app from source by yourself." Love this!

Kudos for creating a useful tool mate.

saghul··on Apple helped make 'top secret' iPod for US government
Cheers for that, it was a good read!
saghul··on Fast Vue SSR with Rust and QuickJS
> ps: It would be nice to run QuickJS in a WASM runtime

Not sure if it helps, but I did that some time ago, with minor QuickJS patching: https://github.com/saghul/wasi-lab/tree/master/qjs-wasi

saghul··on OpenSSL 3.0
Pity that the bits required for QUIC didn't make the cut: https://github.com/openssl/openssl/pull/8797
saghul··on Proof of concept: end-to-end encryption in Jitsi Meet
The "insertable streams" API is currenly only available in Chrome.
saghul··on Proof of concept: end-to-end encryption in Jitsi Meet
I can't speak to any of that, but you don't need 8x8 in order to run Jitsi.

Jitsi is the same project it was when it was run by an independdent company. It's the same project it was when Atlassian acquired it, and continues to be the same project now at 8x8.

It's Apache 2 licensed, and you are more than welcome to use it without dealing with 8x8 at all.

Disclaimer: I'm a Fellow Jitster at 8x8.

saghul··on Proof of concept: end-to-end encryption in Jitsi Meet
That is not really true.

Yes, our Firefox support has not been great, but we are working on making it better: https://github.com/jitsi/jitsi-meet/issues/4758

> Desktop sharing? Chrome plugin.

This was a browser limiation, which is no longer needed since about 2 years ago.

> Desktop client? Chromium/Electron.

You need to ue it! Use the browser, or the mobile apps.

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