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I'm not questioning your own validity, I'd just love to know how pervasive this was and where it was happening.
I was able to find references about Justice Scalia in the Heller arguments.
By offering those resources to the same spaces that utilize oil, you are competing with oil. If you are able to take customers from oil, oil will be forced to reduce their prices.
As I mentioned in the previous comment, you should check out the keywords I mentioned. And if you are thinking that I'm missing something, please direct some resources my way.
If you're interested in reading more on the topic, search for keywords: rothbard, myth of natural monopoly
California allows the disruption of true prices of water. If water is scarce, it should be more expensive.
If the water at true market value is so expensive that prices of goods produced with that water are now no longer competitive on the market, then that means that agriculture is not sustainable nor feasible in California and will be correctly priced out of the market by those who are able to produce the same quality product for less.
Based on the narrative, I think the premise and definition of "modern civilization" was basically how our society is configured today, regions, space between cities, social architecture, travel, available goods and resources, etc. Under that thought, the answer is as I said before, flatly no.
Without fossil fuels, the world could not take shape in the way it has due to the sheer density of energy for its weight. We currently have nothing else like that, and all of our advancements into new generations of energy rely on products manufactured with fossil fuels, cheap fossil fuels at that.
Even today, we do not have such a resource readily available and as safe as fossil fuels.
That being said, "a modern civilization" could come into existence without fossil fuels. I do not doubt the ingenuity of humans whether I am in the same period of time with them or not.
My belief on this is based on how our society would be structured when you cannot travel so far away from the epicenter of a city because of the cost of fuel.
This type of thought experiment is fun.