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>Exactly. Factories will be built, but you will still need workers, project engineers, and actual architects. Automation is still not there yet, despite the elaborate harnesses of frontier models.

This is what I replied to?

Yall really dont see the issue about replacing workers step by step? We'll reach the point of a "saturated" job market which will cause people to fall into welfare programs. Those are saturated soon as well, so what are people going to do, if they have no food and no help? Doesn't take a genius to see the dystopic near future.

Thinking our governments will solve the issues the AI vendors created ain't going to work.

Well the argument was "we still need workers" so surely there's something to train people for!

I am well aware, people need work, therefor my retrain argument. Unless companies also do not want to train workers, which is a huge issue already.

Given the primary goal and promise of all these AI vendors is to replace workers I think its hilarious that "you still need workers" is an argument. Wouldn't we have an abundance of workers soonish as all the replaced people could be retrained? Or is the truth that these models can't actually replace intellectual work?

>The block is introduced because they want employees to use the services approved by the government office, including Microsoft's AI tool Copilot.

Meh

Yea but that doesnt help with companies still hiring for language specific roles. Also you gotta be able to check LLM generated code which requires proficiency in the given language.

7.x versions have patches thanks to Mr Sury. Was almost as fast as the patches with official support.

Because its way easier to verify LLM generated code for Laravel over some Rust project. Or do you just vibe it and dont look at code anymore?

Hey Claude, can you have sex with my wife for me? Voila, your wife now has an actual lover. Having sex with your wife can be as obsolete as real intimacy, with the advent of technology.

Reading is a life skill. Proficiency in it makes you understand things. Weren't there plenty of news articles this year about how high schoolers didn't have proficient reading capabilities? Maybe teaching your kids how to properly read a text is a good thing.

>Nice way to avoid the responsibility

Welcome to the tech industry. Its all about shifting responsibility in case something goes wrong. Thats the only reason companies use third party software in the first place, to have a scapegoat...

Well to use Elixirs concurrency model you kinda have to use the rest of the langs ecosystem and learn a shit ton more compared to familiar feeling langs like Go. For Go I dont have to learn its execution model, some VM specifics and whatnot.

Not to mention its a lot easier to learn Go concurrency over Elixirs whole ecosystem. Also Go has a job market while Elixir job market exclusively consists out of senior level job postings that get handed over from Elixir job hopper to another Elixir job hopper. There is barely any reason to learn Elixir except for being fascinated by it.

I meant it as in: I bricked all previous snapshots while also having bricked the one I had selected, so I bricked my whole system.

LLMs would need way more tokens using langs/frameworks that dont have native features already built in? Even with LLMs I would take 10x the amount of time/tokens until I have something I could've just done with Laravel in the first place.

A more concrete example: Laravel has a built in rate limiter, with Go I'd either have to tell Claude to install some rate limiter package from some random ass dev or implement its own which would consume tokens/time...

Also your argument about PHP/Laravel being risky is pretty funny as everything is risky and most of the internet runs on PHP...

I managed to brick my revisions/snapshots before

Tech specialists ignoring human feelings about AI and the future of tech, while also looking at the amount of downright evil tech out there makes reconsider about wanting to continue to work in this profession over and over again.

Before I knew how to program I used to think software developers were smart wizards capable of creating cool stuff out of thin air but the recent years proved me differently given how many of them outright water out of their mouths at the mere thought of replacing the human in the loop with some bullshit parrot we call AI.

Especially on this website I rarely find people having human first thoughts and it makes me despise software engineers.

Why would I bother with anything but Laravel for small CRUD apps? Not having to think about concurrency is neat, having tons of abstractions built by people with 50x my experience is neat, just being able to get going is neat.

Building the things I've built using Laravel with Golang would probably take 10x the development time as I have to handcraft everything Laravel already natively provides. Or I have to trust 100 packages from 100 different random devs to simulate the Laravel experience in Golang.

NixOS is also unnecessarily complicated and it's easy for someone that doesn't want to read 1000 pages of documentation to brick your system.

Probably has its uses, tried it twice myself and both times were a lot of struggling.

For me even Arch was easier to configure than Nix.

Had that issue with HTTP accessed repo, switching to SSH solved it for me.

I wouldn't have an issue with consuming meat if people wouldn't neglect how wrong the state of the industry is at scale. Eating meat might have been normal throughout humanity, but the industry scale meat production is everything but normal. Its ruining peoples health, normalizes the atrocities happening in farms on a daily basis and generally treats animals horribly. If you eat meat at least do it with a consciousness.

So they could just buy supplements and other vegetables?

I am constantly thinking about it, trust me. The issue is I already earn below median wage, but just enough to live comfortably. Other jobs would likely make me go back into poverty or make me hate my life even more.

Id say 90% AI, I just review it now

I wont be able to retire early with a measly 2.5k net wage in Germany. Still, job market is dead here. Its all Java and basically zero interesting projects. I appreciate the kind words though!

Used to think the same when joining the field and now I despise every minute I have to work on software I don't care about. AI even made it worse as I joined the field due to liking the coding part, not the results. Well, there isn't really an alternative for me either as there are basically no jobs I could learn that pay equally well...

>And every person I talk to has a different take.

Maybe every person you talk to is autistic with no sense for creativity at all. Thats what most of this dogshit website consists of. Programmers with no values, no creativity, no friends, no life and no self awareness. People who actually should be replaced by AI because they lack human values.

This is exactly what I meant.

>Given that any advertisement with AI generated food would be illegal there

So you never actually walked the streets ive been in recently lol