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It isn't wrong. The headline is intentionally misleading and the article is just woke nonsense. Read it for yourself.
What the article is really saying that the alpha in a zoo wolfpack is different than an alpha in a wild wolfpack because a zoo wolfpack is between non-related wolves whilest in the wild, wolfpacks are composed of family members ( alpha father/alpha mother and children ).
There are alpha in wolf packs ( zoos and wild ). Just like in a human family the father/mother are alphas while in a gang, the alpha is usually a non-related individual.
The "myth" isn't that the alpha doesn't exist. The "myth" is about the relation of the alpha to the rest of the pack.
You forget to mention that canada initially refused to renegotiate NAFTA as Trump demanded. But Canada ultimately did renegotiate NAFTA...
Also, canada is a tiny economy relative to the US. A genuine tariff war between the US and Canada wouldn't end so well for canada.
My guess is the price won't budge on Monday.
That's interesting. Does that mean someone could go to an NFL game and broadcast the play by play of the game? Stating facts like: "It's 4th and goal, mahomes drops back and passed to kelce for a touchdown". You could legally broadcast that?
No. It had everything to do with it. How can you say that when tiktok is getting banned? Even after bytedance bent over backwards to appease the US?
> the Chinese version is heavily filtered and tilted towards CPP prefered activities and worldview, such a platform would never work on the international market and they know it.
Sure. But nothing prevents tiktok from catering their app to other nations differently. You do realize that most nations get different versions of tiktok, facebook, youtube, etc right?
> And it obviously is not a split if they are seperate apps from the beginning.
But they weren't separate apps from the beginning. Your fellow bot/propagandists wrote: "ByteDance initially released Douyin in China in September 2016. ByteDance introduced TikTok for users outside of China in 2017."
If someone is born in 2016 and another person is born in 2017 are born in the same year? Are they the same person?
> Why do you lie so much btw?
Everyone can read this thread and see that you are lying. Not me.
Not just a solution to racism, but also a defense against genocide. Forced interracial "marriages", rape, etc were used as a genocidal tool against the natives along with murder. Natives who refused to mix with whites were derogatorily called racists by the white settlers.
Miscegenation was actually supported by natives, blacks, asians, etc in order preserve their cultures/races in a white dominated nation. Racism ( by all sides ) actually preserved diversity in the US for centuries. Otherwise, everyone would be white due to demographic realities of the nation.
There was no split? You wrote: "ByteDance initially released Douyin in China in September 2016. ByteDance introduced TikTok for users outside of China in 2017."
You say there was no split while explicitly proving that there was split? You're not that stupid are you?
Why do you think "tiktok" was created in 2017 when bytedance already had douyin( aka tiktok ) in 2016?
Why is there a "tiktok" for china and a "tiktok" for everyone else? Because the "tiktok in china ( duoyin ) was influenced by the chinese government and to appease the US, bytedance branched off tiktok from "douyin".
What? It's more likely to get you banned. Not only that, it gets minority and female college presidents fired. Something unthinkable prior to this "conflict".
All one can do is push back against the propaganda and censorship.
What nonsense.
> The algorithm used in the US was apparently banned in China for being too addictive.
"Apparently"? Tiktok was forced to separate itself into a chinese version and the non-chinese version by the US because we didn't want "da ccp" controlling tiktok.
> There's a certain historic symmetry with how opium was traditionally used in China, then Britain introduced stronger, more disruptive versions, forcing a stronger social reaction.
There is no historic symmetry. Unless china invades the US and forces americans to use tiktok. Like britain invaded china ( opium wars ) and forced opium on china's population.
What's with all the same propaganda in every tiktok/china related thread? The same talking points on every single thread for the past few years.
Must be those pesky chinese or russian bots. Or could it be something else entirely? A chosen group of bots perhaps?
> that aren’t dead in a thread before.
Give it some time. They start with the downvotes and when things quiet down some, then come the mass flagging of comments.
What a dope. Imagine being dumb enough to believe google pulled out to protect chinese people's privacy.
Google pulled out because the chinese government wanted to monitor it to make sure google wasn't acting as a state actor pushing propaganda to destabilize nations. Turns out the chinese were right and google was indeed a state actor. Their dirty little fingers were all over the color revolutions.
> One country (China) was trying to force foreign companies to spy / psyop.
But that's google's business model. Do you have two brain cells to rub together? Why would the chinese force google to do what it already was doing in china and everywhere in the world? And still does today?
> One country (US) is making sure a foreign adversary doesn't use it to spy / psyop.
That's what china was doing. Dummy. Literally, china created laws to stop google/facebook/etc from running psyops in china and that's why they chose to leave china.
You must be one of the morons that actually swallowed google's motto "Don't be evil" hook line and sinker.
How stupid do you have to be to think google left china because the chinese government forced them to spy on the chinese. When spying is google's bread and butter.
What business would choose to keep operating if it can't gain new customers? Think about it. The law makes it impossible for tiktok to grow or be profitable. What advertiser would be interested in a platform that will lose users every day and won't gain more in the future?
The law was sneakily and intentially written to outright ban tiktok. It would be like congress creating a law saying you specifically cannot buy more gas. You can keep using the gas in the car, but you can't fill up your tank anymore. Would you spend thousands to fix your car? Change the oil or the tire? No. You'd either sell the damn thing or just throw it away.
The early seventies seems to have been a major inflection point in history. 50 years later, maybe it's time for another?
Edit: I wonder which part of my comment is responsible for the downvotes?
China does allow competition. It's just that google, facebook, etc chose not to follow chinese laws.
> they have so much to lose by growing anti-sino sentiments abroad all because they didn’t want US tech monopolies to compete in their home turf
Funny how microsoft, apple, tesla, etc are competing in china?
You are just parroting stale propaganda.
It was the golden age because from the 1990 to 2010, the internet was majority american. For the entire 90s, the internet population was something ridiculous like 95% american. Fun times.
> in the sense that even though the Internet was a child of the US military-industrial-research complex, political powers didn't yet perceive it as a potential threat vector or even comprehend it at all ("the internet is a series of tunes").
Comprehend it at all? Are you joking. Maybe the dumb politicians didn't know it but certainly the real people in charge certainly knew it's potential.
> Social media and "Web 2.0" were probably the death knell for this era
The death nell of the era was the smartphone which allowed millions of computer illiterate peoples around the world to join the internet. The demographics of the internet was definitely changing in the 2000s, but the arrival of the smartphone toward the end of the decade accelerated the demographic shift. Now americans make up a small portion of the internet population.
You could imagine someone from the biggest city in washington moving to the biggest city in alaska? Amazing.
> I can't imagine a New York guy moving to Greenland.
Sure. But someone from new york would fit in better in anchorage since it actually snows and gets cold in new york during the winter. Unlike seattle.
Also, we need annex all the territory south of the st lawrence river and divide it amongst new york, vermont, new hampshire and maine. It wouldn't require too much work. Just extend the borders of these states vertically north to the st lawrence river.
Edit: Honestly what was flag worthy about my comment? It's insane what triggers people.
No it's not.
> You shouldn't assume English speakers on the Internet are Americans,
Until fairly recently, almost everyone ( not just english speakers ) were american.
> For the record, by using English to make their content accessible to the global population, I have been exposed to more Chinese culture than China could ever hope.
The vast majority of the global population does not speak or understand english. It's strange how people with agenda make shit up. You write like a journalist. Also, what does this have anything to do with chinese people learning english? Surely chinese people can appreciate chinese culture in their own language?
> Lastly, the US was a single vote from German being the official language of this country
Dumbest thing I've ever read. A simple search shows it is dumb myth. Are you even american?
> it's why we have no official language now.
We have no official language because all the original 13 colonies were british colonies populated predominantly by british peoples - english, scots, irish. There was no need for it because everyone spoke english. All the documents were written in english. What language do you think the declaration of independence was written in?
It's remarkable how stupid some people on hacker news truly are. Imagine being stupid enough to believe 13 british colonies would get together and make german the national language. Especially when there were anti-german sentiment during the 1700s.
There is no such thing as a global internet. The internet is just a bunch of separate networks. Of course this being "hacker news" you wouldn't know what the internet is.
There is no such thing as global trade. There are a bunch of trade relations between regions and countries.
> People like to interact with one another, for various reasons: business, science, mere curiosity.
People like to interact with their own for the most part.
> Having the globe split into several mutually non-communicating regions would be weird,
Where did I say this? It's amazing how people are so stupid that they think you need english for people to communicate with each other. Do you think japanese and chinese people didn't communicate each other before english? Or russians and germans without english?
> And in absence of hard barriers in North Korean style, one dominant way of communication is likely to emerge.
No. The historical norm is major regional languages. Not one dominant language enforced on the world primarily through military supremacy.
It isn't splitting hairs. It's outright propaganda invented to justify stealing native land. The idea being if natives had no sense of property, we didn't really steal anything from them because they had no property to begin with.
The other trope justifying theft of the land is of the "dumb indians" who sold the land for cheap. Like indians selling manhattan for a handful of beads.
Why?
> Chinese people seem to be like to be everyone else and like that they can communicate with people from everywhere.
Do you think that's what people want? I personally prefer the time when almost 100% of the people online were american. I've no real desire to speak with chinese or british or any others. I simply just assume I'm interacting with americans.
> It's understood by everyone that English is the Global language
It shouldn't be. There shouldn't be a global language. Chinese, Hindi, spanish, arabic, etc along with english should be major regional languages. Also, it's a waste of time for vast majority of people to learn english on a superficial level. Their time is better spent on learning their own languages. Especially a language with such rich history as chinese.
> China is trying be more of a cultural power rn and that's all bc of English so...
Language is one of the most important aspects of cultural power. If china wants to be a cultural power, then they should be focusing on spreading chinese, not "submitting" to english. America didn't become a cultural power by adopting french when french was lingua franca.
> I just don't kno how much I believe this.
It's an economist article on china, so much of it is probably nonsense. So don't let it bother you so much.
Foreign? Christian factionalism is deeply ingrained in american culture.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Catholicism_in_the_United...
Mostly directed towards catholics and mormons.
> You drive around just about anywhere in the US and you will come across Protestant churches right next to Catholic ones.
Anywhere? No. Most catholic churches are in catholic areas and protestant churches in protestant areas. And I'm pretty sure most protestant churches official stance is that the catholic pope is the anti-christ. At least it was when I went to church not too long ago. Not sure what the catholic stance is nor do I really care.
Also, these "religious" conflicts are deep down ethnic or political conflicts. We don't have religious factionalism because our politics is pretty much controlled by one political party (republican-democratic party). Once that political stranglehold gets broken, we'll probably ethnic and religious factionalism.
If there is a disease of modern social media, it's that.
> This is incredibly toxic and stupid, contributes nothing
It's almost like the toxic people who whined about toxic social media became mods everywhere. The most toxic people tend to be the mods in my experience.
> The site years ago was an amazing resource of like minded people helping each other.
Then a few years ago, SO along with many/all social media sites became trash. Almost in tandem. Wonder why and how.
Who cares how it sits with you? There is a "correct" way in every aspect of language - accent, spelling, etc.
> Language is incredibly fluid, and typically when a certain pronunciation is deemed 'correct' it's related to people in power and how they pronounce(d) it.
Probably. But somebody has to set the standard.
> There are of course regional variation where claiming one is more 'correct' than the other doesn't hold up well (north USA vs south USA),
Bad example. There is most definitely a "correct" american pronunciation. It's why much of news/media has a neutral american accent. Most americans, from whatever region, can speak it to some degree or another.
> but even further I'm sure most would take offense at the idea that everyone in the US mispronounces words where they differ from British pronunciation.
Who would take offense? Not me. Not anybody I know. Especially since american english is the dominant form of english and probably will be the standard around the world.
> but you get my point).
You have no point. Just misinformed silly gripes. All languages standardize in some form or another whether it be accents, pronunciation, spelling, script, etc.
There is no cure for pancreatic cancer. There are people who survive it, but nobody knows why.
> and then went through heroic real-doctor efforts once it was too late:
If it was "too late" why did these "heroic real-doctor" exert any effort? Shouldn't they have known better? Being "heroic" and "real" doctors.
The guy chose to be a lab rat after his 9 months of "alternative medicine" and 5 years of "real medicine" failed him. These "heroic doctors" failed him just like the "unheroic doctors".
As I said, cancer isn't an exact science. People who think it is either know nothing of cancer or are just unthinking bootlickers. Hopefully one day we'll have a cure for cancer.
People who tend to go the "alternative healing" route usually do so because the traditional healing route hasn't worked.
> he had an out and he chose to ignore it till it was too late
Did he? Guess you are the expert.
Cancer treatment isn't an exact science. Millions of people who go the traditional route die. It's always the know-nothings who talk with such confidence of absolutes.
> also I heard he was a massive twat irl
Did you now? I guess it takes one to know one.
If you can't muster $1000, then you are in financial ruin. Insurance is pointless for these people.