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> Python needs a version 4 to make a clean break

The tragedy of Python 3 is that they made the community go through a billion dollar migration but didn't tackle any of the hard stuff. And the reason they didn't was the Perl 6 debacle. So it's all Larry Wall's fault.

I am almost in that age range but the older I get the less interested I am in AAA titles. Indie games is where it's at.

True but there is no way it would be implemented in such a half-assed way at any other big company (including pre-Musk Twitter).

Stuff like this makes it obvious that the people who are still there no longer give a fuck, they just do what they are told with the minimum effort required to collect the paycheck.

That grace period has long passed. If you are still there at this point you have made a choice.

(Removed "complicit" because I don't like the way that sounded)

For language runtimes that don't normally have to deal with C baggage having to drag libc into your address space and going through libc code for syscalls makes this a less secure platform.

It's even better than that, for just $1/year they can get their bot accounts certified as a "real human".

You are holding it wrong, in Wayland every frame is perfect.

> IRC lost to Discord years ago.

A couple of years ago you'd have told me the exact same thing but with s/Discord/Slack/

IRC has "lost" many times before and yet it's still around while the previous "winners" are all gone or irrelevant. Even if Discord is tolerable today how long before it becomes terminally enshittified?

> Tell me what happened your freenode?

It shat the bed, just like Twitter and Reddit did recently.

The huge difference is that with IRC we were able to painlessly hop over to libera.chat pretty much the same day while a lot of people are still struggling to leave the other two behind. I have learned my lesson, it's open services for anything important.

In that scenario Musk fills the "useful idiot" role.

I am not really convinced though, I think it's just plain old incompetence and hubris. But then, it's 2023 so who knows.

They are literally throwing away revenue with every denied impression. An act of desperation obviously. My take: they broke something and need to shed load to keep the site running. The "extreme scraping" thing is the usual Musk BS.

Yeah, it really is "destroy".

Let's say that you are the proud owner of a goose that lays golden eggs. "fixing" would be switching it to a different feed that might make it more productive, or it might make it sick. But this year the trend is to give it a few good kicks to see if that helps.

That's Musk-speak. Translation: "we broke shit again and need to shed load to keep the site up."

I wish it would stays that way though so that I wouldn't land on the site by accident.

This gets parroted a lot but it's the wrong way to look at it. The Fediverse doesn't need to "win". It just needs to be good enough for those of us who use it.

I am giving it the same treatment that facebook and twitter get. No more contributions, Redirector entry to a libreddit instance in case I land on a link.

It's cool to not hate Comic Sans and it's brethren right now but as an old school hater I know that our time will come again.

https://achewood.com/2007/07/05/title.html

Sometimes you just have to destroy the site to meet your OKR goals. Who hasn't done it once or twice in their career.

I dearly miss the golden age of Usenet, I still keep an eye on some groups and use GMANE as well.

The Fediverse is the closest thing we have now. It's not perfect but it's ours.

This uses the API and will stop working when that goes away, correct? This presents an interesting dilemma to those of us who are planning to leave if the planned changes go through.

The existence of this HN thread and the situation we are discussing is a very clear sign of Reddit's incompetence. Regardless of what their motivation was they have fucked up the execution in a big way.

For better or worse a lot of us have been passionate about the sub-communities we were involved in and we thought that our contributions were valued by the site.

The writing is on the wall, it will go as soon as the current mess quiets down (if it does). I don't think that I will even wait it out, the trust has been broken.

The painful lesson here is that nothing with the "you are the product" business model escapes enshittification. So I am not really interested in anything that's not community controlled.

Thankfully I've been making my home over at the Fediverse for the past few months so it's a lot easier to leave now than it would have been a year ago.

Yeah, it's not perfect but it's ours.

Even if it's sufficient why settle for that? We should take advantage of the best or most practical technologies available.

Most automobiles don't run on legs and airplanes are not flapping their wings either.

You'd think that the Digg-fiasco was burned into Reddit's corporate DNA but I guess even the most important lessons are forgotten with time.

You arrive at the village. You've been separated from your family and you are desperate to get some kind of Internet access so that you can try to get in touch with them. Your phone still has 20% battery but no reception. You finally find a Wi-Fi hotspot! You connect... and it turns out to be one of these things instead of the real deal.

We are wildly off-topic here but I use a keyword filter to get rid of that stuff and the number of hits it gets is almost always in the 4-6 range, sometimes creeping up to 8. I still think that most of the noise is organic but the unrelenting consistency of it makes me wonder.

Vote by deleting your account.

I wonder if paleontologists specializing on extinct proboscidea are in trouble.

Twitter had reasonably healthy finances and steadily growing revenue. It turned profit in 2018 and 2019 and could have fully recovered from the 2020 slump within a few more quarters.

A change in leadership (never been a fan of Dorsey) and a refocus on core competencies could have given it a big boost - if it was planned and executed competently. But what we got with Musk is the exact opposite of that. The amount of fuckup is truly amazing to watch.