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> Sure it does. Saying sorry sometimes reduces liability risk, which is quite counterintuitive at first.

No it doesn't have anything to do with what I said. The OP has no contractual or legal obligations toward any community, unlike a doctor and their patients in case of medical error.

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> A doctor has no contractual obligation to apologize, either.

> But it can help prevent things from going to lawsuits, versus the "fuck you I admit nothing" approach that sometimes just pisses people off.

OP isn't a doctor as far as you know, and isn't apologizing to a specific person. OP can't be bound to an embargo he didn't know about and wasn't involved in any decisions.

You're completely off topic and you just want the last word.

Your ramblings have nothing to do with anything I have said.

This isn't a matter of transparency, was the OP legally bound not to disclose the RCE? That whole "embargo" was pure courtesy between the people involved. The OP committed no fault at first place and the exploit was already in the wild anyway. Whoever really wanted to exploit it before the patch could without using the OP as a source.

> Anyone can sue anyone else for any reason.

And it's easier to have cause to sue when someone publish an "admission of guilt", which makes a lawsuit harder to dismiss thus costlier.

It has nothing to do with anything I said.

The parent is getting downvoted but he is absolutely right. Do not ever do what you just did. It makes you an easy target for a frivolous lawsuit in the US or in other countries because of the potential liabilities in your message, they are real. Even if you didn't do anything wrong, you are painting a target on your back, for no reason. I would ask HN to delete that thread directly.

You cannot foresee the financial/civil consequences of that RCE and some people might be looking for scapegoats in the future.

"Weekend at Burnsie's"? anyone?

"See, it's sentient! It misinterpreted my prompt!".

RIP, what a fantastic person she was.

Right, don't ban them that's bad for free speech, just impose huge fines on Facebook to bankrupt them.

Whoever wrote that article doesn't understand that these agents operate from AI companies servers and aren't rogue, they are doing exactly what they were programmed for. If they cause any sort of damage then at the minimum it's civil or criminal negligence. A subpoena for internal communications during legal proceedings might demonstrate that researchers knew about the risks, but went forward with that anyway, which would be more than negligence...

Someone made VST versions of both the Machinedrum and the Monomachine, after doing the Virus series, the JP8000, the Supernova...

so people can have all these at home without the hardware, if they manage to find the original OS online AND have a computer powerful enough to run all these... they are emulations of the original devices...

But in theory, someone could make hardware bootleg versions of all these devices...

> There needs to be a free, non-ad, non-login environment people can use to access this information posted by public entities.

RSS.

*slaves do. Amazon big shots must be laughing at these people who have no choice but to accept these work conditions to make ends meet, so hard. They must talk about these people like they are garbage, peasants, when Amazon yuppies are among themselves...

That's what shocked me the most when I was doing odd jobs, the contempt, the disdain.

It's fraud, and wire fraud in US, and it's a federal crime. But yeah, it sounds like a fake story.

But bad performances stems from non compiler optimized React to begin with, its execution model when handwritten. Other frameworks don't necessarily take more effort to use and have better performances from the get go.

*React. Nobody is forced to use React to write web UI though. Actually, in theory, AI helps getting rid of all these web frameworks, they are tools for made developers, LLM don't need React to code a web UI, they can use Vanilla DOM or faster frameworks, like SolidJS.

Hand written React code is relatively slow when running so the React team made a React compiler to make it run faster. You might not see the difference with a toy app, but with a fairly large app, with a lot of IO it's a catastrophe if not compiled and optimized.

It's the definition of overengineering IMHO. The problem is React at first place. Some other frameworks have in theory no compilation or optimization step while delivering constant performance as the app grows, like SolidJS. Since writing a compiler in JS also make compilation itself slow, then the React compiler was re-written in Rust...

At the end of the day, React has a larger community and ecosystem so it's the industry "standard" for JS applications...

That site exists in my country but under a different name (the UI is exactly the same so I imagine it's the same company). It's OK, but their search engine is mediocre. You look for Smartphone deals and they show you bananas... this is the very thing that shouldn't happen on a site like that. It means that whatever algorithm they use isn't very sophisticated.

> which ought to absolve you of liability

Criminal liability perhaps, not civil liability which has a way lower bar when it comes to conviction...

But in essence, you're right, that new "AI agent paradigm" has to be tried in court and it will, as I doubt the legislator will change existing laws...

> The first time it bites somebody, you may not be liable because you didn't know the dog was dangerous

Is it the case though? If I get a lion or a tiger as a pet (I don't know if it's legal), there is a reasonable assumption that a lion is dangerous for me and others... If I get a rottweiler, there is a reasonable assumption for that sort of breed that it is a dangerous dog if it ever end up killing someone even though it behaved before...

It's crazy how getting the best deals online is still a unsolved problem. Google product page was garbage even before AI, most aggregators are a complete farce as well, either displaying deals that are out of date or completely unrelated items, and let's not even get started with price tracking...

You'd think of all the companies, Google would be the best one to come up with a good solution for deal hunting but no...

I guess it's in no company's interest for consumers to get the best deals...

EU regulations do not require that, that's bullshit. Otherwise Microsoft and Apple would do the same and completely restrict what one can install on their laptop (Microsoft tried to force people to go through their store on Windows Family versions though, I'm glad they failed).

The only reason I chose Android was being able to install my own "native" apps without Google having a say. If that function is gone, I simply have no reason to use Android, I actually like IOS better in terms of UI, so I'll just move to Apple's ecosystem...

While using alternative OS on older Android devices.

then keep it secret, someone else will discover it eventually.

Software patents are evil.

> How do they afford to buy all the books in the world?

You are on a VC website at first place, what question is this?

RIP, still own an Amiga 500! Thank you sir.

> That's like saying you aren't building a house if you use a hammer to drive nails instead of your hand. AI is just a tool like any other, and you use it to build things like you would any other tool.

A coding agent is more like a carpenter, a mason, an electrician,... rather than a hammer in that case.

Well that's part of the issue with for profit education, if the student pays significant money for tuition, is he a customer or a student?

I never understood why would these labs disclose such crimes, because hacking is a federal crime, and admit some sort of fault in public which would be used as evidence in a court of law against them, unless it's all bullishit and a publicity stunt...

Nothing wrong with J2EE back then if you were building a certain kind of entreprise application. EJBeans actually took care about a lot of business complexity for a n-tier application, it's just that the whole XML crap was absolutely egregious.

Go can barely parse an XML document natively so don't worry about G2EE I'd say...

I'm more worried about what have become of professional Javascript serverside these days, it's just nuts how people have managed to make it as complex as J2EE... Nextjs, Typescript,JSX, React, compilers, transpilers, ... and none of that stuff solves enterprise business logic...

Yeah, this scam is probably all automated at first place. Welcome to the "agent era"...

You'd be shocked how much of our "friends" in MENA still have legal slavery for non citizens. When an employer can legally confiscate someone's passport and one can only leave the country with their authorization, it is slavery.

I have no idea why we in the west consider that normal and look the other way... What am I saying, I know, oil & VC money...

Some of them also bring their Filipino, India, Nepali, or African slave maids in Europe and everybody looks the other way, they have too much money to be criticized...

They are so brazen about slavery they routinely sell their slaves on Instagram or Facebook ads, with copies such as "doesn't need much food","will sleep on the floor", "will work 20 hours a day"...

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-50228549

> "African worker, clean and smiley," said one listing. Another: "Nepalese who dares to ask for a day off."

> When speaking to the sellers, the undercover team frequently heard racist language. "Indians are the dirtiest," said one, describing a woman being advertised.

They are dehumanized at first place, but the level of racism in these places, on top of all that is shocking...