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throwawa998833on Why We’re Removing Kik Messenger from Startup Timelines

Reading the article it seems like the Kik emails were a little poorly worded, but not extremely so.

However, Azer's response is completely over the top. Clearly he has a take no prisoners attitude and scorched earth approach to things. Given that open source is also about collaboration, this response is kinda lame.

throwawa998833on Ask HN: How much do you make at Amazon? Here is how much I make at Amazon

Indeed it's high, but also it just shows you what is possible.

I don't think I was a highly strategic hire, just a very solid engineer with a lot of experience, prior employment at Google (and Amazon), and a strong salary and stock compensation at my immediately prior job.

So they busted out the competitive offer, and I was very happy. Also the stock went up like $200 a share.

throwawa998833on Ask HN: How much do you make at Amazon? Here is how much I make at Amazon

it's 800 over 4 years, and 600 over 18 months. So 1400 total.

throwawa998833on Ask HN: How much do you make at Amazon? Here is how much I make at Amazon

And not all Googlers make this little. I have the same position, in the bay area, and my pay structure is roughly:

$180k/year 15% bonus ~ $30k/year 600 RSUs in the first year = $440,000 400 RSUs in the second year = $280,000 200 RSUs in 3rd and 4th year (assuming no refreshers, and oh boy there will be refreshers!)

Male, native english speaker.

It helps that my prior job had a comp level around $480k/year and also I got hired when GOOG was $550/share.

BTW, the T-5 salary band ends at $180k. So you're pretty close. Its the RSUs that make all the difference.

throwawa998833on Ask HN: How much do you make at Amazon? Here is how much I make at Amazon

So, to put things in perspective, Google TechLevel-5, which is "Senior Software Engineer" which is basically 1 level above Amazon's "SDE III" position.

Competitive pay offer: $180k /year $50k signing bonus 15% bonus per year 800 RSUs vested equally over 4 years (200/year) 600 RSUs vested in 100-chunks every quarter for the first 18 months.

Counting up, in the first 12 months, pay is about $670,000.

I gotta get seriously bumped at the end of 18 months to keep it up, otherwise my pay will slip to $350,000.

And that is what a competitive offer from a company that values their employees looks like.

I have friends who have totally gotten the $1m RSUs/year for 4 year offers from both Google, Facebook and others. These positions exist.

It helps to change jobs a bunch :-)