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Hermes is more general purpose, like openclaw. Pi and opencode are more specific to coding.

Hermes accomodates other coding agents pretty well and has in fact bundled skills for claude code and codex (for spawning subagents, delegating, etc.). They are not exclusive

I haven't tried these 'agent fleet' frameworks in depth and am not sure yet they are not just a gimmick. Both openclaw and hermes handle multi-agennt orchestration, fwiw. Gas town looks like a silly way to burn all your tokens in a day. Paperclip is just buggy. I'm waiting for them to become more mature

Switzerland, homogeneous? Is this some kind of joke?

Well one does have to come up with continuous non-differentiable functions to begin with, right? Weierstrass had to shock the community with his weird series that's almost everywhere nondifferentiable before people could conceive of a nice framework that includes them. People do not invent whole encompassing abstractions out of nowhere

>That is not a grant or initial state funding. That is ownership. There are very few examples, especially prior to Trump, of government ownership/stakes of public companies.

Maybe not in the US (although Musk getting state subsidies comes to mind), but very common in Europe. Quite a few founder friends of mine have gotten started with state funding (through various R&D promoting agencies). Angel investing is not the only startup funding structure out there

When it comes to safety regulations as with everything else, some countries do not succeed, others do not try

Again, that's besides the point. So the state is an investor in DS, and? Many companies in Western capitalist economies receive initial state funding, especially startup grants. The real point to make is: does the state purposely fund the structural expenses of all those companies at a loss in an effort to undercut the competition and without which they would all go bankrupt and the cost of inference would be naturally much higher and couldn't be possibly optimized? I have yet to see evidence of that, especially given the continuous and prolific R&D from Chinese labs (or the panic at Meta when DS-r1 came out) that does show optimization gains are in fact possible.

Never read Asimov's Multivac novels? Admittedly not all of them are stellar examples of a future to follow

Agent mania setting in

It's also pretty funny sometimes how it gives weird future roadmap estimates ("part 2 - 3 weeks, part 3 - 2 months", etc.) and when you tell it to actually do those changes it's pretty much done in half an hour

Also applies to research. Keep leeway to open yourself up for collaborations and you might score lots of easy wins even as you struggle with your 'main' project (it also makes you a more well-rounded, sociable scientist)

I'd assume there's more to the cost of labor than the salaries of the elite folks who do the R&D, but fair point

There is no evidence in those sources that DeepSeek is "subsidized" by the CCP in the way people imply (e.g. in an actively malicious*, market-distorting way that undercuts the competition, early Uber-style). They do receive tax breaks for their R&D research, a very common scheme in Europe (and which also used to be the case in the US, I believe). They also have public-private partnerships, e.g. the state is one of their clients. Also common in every free market economy. (SpaceX anyone?)

*This does not invalidate other concerns (censorship, privacy) but the way people phrase it makes it look like DeepSeek and co. are 'cheating' somehow with their business model by 'distorting' inference cost to make it way artificially lower than its 'natural price' (either notion being hopelessly naive)

Arguments about beauty don't lead anywhere constructive because they are too observer- and context-dependent. Poincaré himself was decrying continuous non-differentiable functions as abominations. The monster group is, well, just like that. What feels intellectually ugly for one generation is natural for the next, and the field moves on

A huge chunk of HN is 20-something kids who are way too online and parrot in earnest Polandball-style memes like "Germany doesn't have freedom of speech" or "France has too much regulation". They are fine to discuss tech with but I wouldn't take their opinions on politics or culture seriously

Huge L for free market economies if true

Lower cost of labor, lots of under the hood optimizations (e.g. cache hits for DS), many of these companies have existing infra (fewer upfront costs for deployment), etc

The deficiencies of biology's progress as a field? The decrepitudes of biological sciences? Do we live in the same timeline?

That would require having actual technological flair beyond 'buying potential competitors'

Did you read the article?