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In private, they share in confidence with people they trust and organizations that they work with who treat such knowledge as competitive advantage.
The thing is, once you are at the top of your field, what incentive is there to share if you are still making personal breakthroughs on a regular basis? I don't see any.
If you haven't experienced sport (or similar) at the highest levels you probably won't get how much a few insane minutes can enhance your mastery. It really is a whole new level, where everyone is competing at their peak and you have to greatly improve your level or fail miserably.
This type of pressure & competitiveness just doesn't happen in most business environments, so the degree of pressure to lift your game isn't there.
There are many ways. Off the top of my head:
- to focus on speed of development you could use a practice or warm-up
> provide each with a practice in another language
> provide a sample solution in pseudocode in both functional and imperative style
- To focus on speed of problem solving you could use topcoder data + research of participants programming language backgrounds.
The important thing is that if the effect is large it's easy to spot. According to some, the difference is an order of magnitude. If that's true, it will be trivial to spot.
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1016762
What's wrong with that as evidence for lisps superiority?
Many thousands of programmers spend hours each week in pissing matches online. Why is it none of them feel like truly putting their money where their mouth is?
This paper although makes me think they compared programmers not languages, as the imperative language programmers didn't have any functional experience. It would be interesting to see a comparison between programmers of roughly equal competency.
Surely, there has to be at least some evidence in it's 50 years? Especially given the claimed huge effect size.
Why don't the lispers organize a RAD competition between lisp and all-comers, surely if lisp is that much more productive you would see the top ten places being lisp dialects.
Would you agree?
Why is it that in RAD application competitions, "mainstream" languages often win?
Also, if it were truly n times better the library disparity wouldn't exist; libraries should be n times faster to make or duplicate.
I'm asking for evidence here: how can something be so much better and have such a paucity of evidence for it's efficacy? If there really is such scientific evidence for lisps effectiveness I would love to read it & and distribute it to my colleagues in charge of large development teams.
The other comments are correct; if you aren't willing to take any risk, then you don't deserve the benefits. If you think you are good, put your money where your mouth is :)
The point of the research is that none of these benefits are supported by the data we have available. Individual anecdotes are the exact opposite of what we should be thinking about after reading this paper.
Or, put your email on your profile and I'll fill you in privately.
In an ideal world height is directly related to strength obviously. Weightlifters spend 5-10+ years training, are genetically gifted for strength, maxed-out muscular potential. Swimmers aren't what I would call ideal candidates for this!
Also, read graph D. Swimmers are typically taller and have less cross sectional area than other athletes, which shows in their poor non-water fitness assessments (read the lit if you are interested). Gymnasts are shorter (170ish+-10) and have more cross sectional area for their size. I've worked with many sub elite gymnasts who went almost directly into national rankings in many sports (e.g. cycling, weightlifting, football, american football, track and field disciplines).
Influence of sports background on leg muscle coordination in vertical jumps:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12712802?ordinalpos=1&...
The book "sports talent" has some interesting tidbits for you as well.
Anyway, this has gone on long enough - let's agree to disagree :)
Anyway, let's agree to disagree.
I'm not sure where you get your info from about "tall" people are stronger, perhaps you should tell that to the international weightlifting federation or the powerlifting federation. I'm sure they would be interested. Also, the UFC should just throw out all the smaller guys, and just select purely on height. :)