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zimablue22··on Explorative modeling: Train on the best of K guesses
Yeah. This work is over claiming the novelty quite a bit.
zimablue22··on Explorative modeling: Train on the best of K guesses
Any of the Best of N papers that exploded in popularity after GRPO.

Likelihood is not fundamental to the spirit of GRPO, any exploratory mechanism would work.

That sequential LLMs have a step-wise probability is convenient but not critical to this approach (where rejection sampling is widely used in diffusion models).

zimablue22··on Explorative modeling: Train on the best of K guesses
You're right about the original GRPO proposal, but there are simplified variants that do just use best of K sampling.

GRPO (or GRPO like approaches) for diffusion/flow matching similarly can be likelihood free.

zimablue22··on Explorative modeling: Train on the best of K guesses
That's fair.

On the other hand, Minibatch OT (optimal transport) was one of the more fundamental advancements early on in flow matching & rectified flow models.

This best of K approach effectively discards matches that would otherwise be preserved by optimal transport assignment.

I still think the authors here are too broad regarding their claimed novelty.

zimablue22··on Explorative modeling: Train on the best of K guesses
This is just GRPO (proposed by DeepSeek), which similarly samples many plausible generations, selects the best of K, and trains that sample.

Minibatch OT in flow matching also has a very similar mechanism, where samples from a noise distribution are matched to the closest data point.

There is a lot of prior work here that the authors neglect to discuss, which portrays this work as more novel than it actually is.