If you're concerned about privacy buy one of those cheap Nokia dumbphones that old people use. Keep your smartphone at home, and swap out the SIM from the dumbphone to your smartphone if your threat model requires you to.
If you're concerned about privacy buy one of those cheap Nokia dumbphones that old people use. Keep your smartphone at home, and swap out the SIM from the dumbphone to your smartphone if your threat model requires you to.
Turn the notifications off, or get something like Tasker that can turn them off and on for you on a schedule. Otherwise, keep it in your pocket. This device has no control over you that you don't allow it to have.
I think it's good for you to occasionally to know that you are on your own. Completely responsible on what you do. Be it on the nearby forest or in some more extreme situation. I am not sure the direction of (illusion of) ultrasafety where our society has been going is all good. Occasionally it's good to have the red pill instead of the blue. Keeps your mind clear.
I think the "Blue pill" mindset is more useful overall. The red pill generally does nothing to build a safer world.
A safe world is of course nice, i do not deny that. But I see higher goals for our society than that. And pushing the boundaries of our knowledge and understanding of the universe we live in is inherently not safe.
I can't honestly say I respect people for choosing the blue pill. However, I very much respect their right to make that choice. I'd also appreciate that blue pillers respected red pillers' right to make their choice and not try to prohibit and demean everything they think looks risky. (obviously, dichotomy is not this strong in the real world)
Natural causes are a different matter, but external causes are often really easy to stop. Even murder seems to be partly preventable just by removing motives.
I don't think most blue pillers have much real disrespect for red pillers, except when it endangers the public, or stops attempts to make the general public safer.
There have been daredevils for a very long time, nobody is saying that we should ban space exploration or stunt performers Blue pillers like Jackass just as much as anyone else.
I think the "standard blue pill position" is more that there's already plenty of people who will want to be astronauts regardless of any discouragement, and we don't really need to try to make that kind of outlook the default target we should all aspire to, and in general, we should apply tech wherever possible to keep us safe.
Lots of things affect other people. House fires can kill a whole family even though only one was responsible for starting it. Mandatory smoke alarms do not majorly impact people's lives, and can prevent people from dying on account of someone else's actions.
If someone wants to, and has the economic means to go phoneless for a day as a personal challenge without getting fired, that's great, they should write an article about what they learned.
But every year kids get permanently injured for life on the football field. I think we should be careful not to create a culture that leads people to think that's "Just how life is", and suffer very preventable chronic pain or brain damage.
If you really thirst for that feeling of _onus_, then I can honestly suggest skydiving. You are extremely responsible for every little thing you do. Still, though, take your phone with you... you never know what might go wrong.
I wish this were true. Phones leak data about users, which companies use to make profiles about you to serve you advertisements. Even if you block advertisements, the profile is still there. Companies are coming up with new ways to use this data. You can read more about that here:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/12/19/opinion/locat...
I had to hike to a payphone a couple of times when I was stranded. That wouldn't work anymore.
To reach the level of security that I had as a teenager, I need a mobile phone.
Who knew, screaming calls attention? And I couldn't use a phone because my hands were full, I was carrying glass bottles home that way because I didn't want to pay for a plastic bag. If I dropped them, they would say since they accused me of stealing them that I destroyed the merchandise and was a thief for sure. And then taken me to the ground and beat me up, that's their job basically.
Thanks Jessica of Farmacias Manríquez!
So phones? Not always a big help.
> Fortunately Jessica at the Farmacias Manríquez (near Merced and José Miguel de la Barra in downtown Santiago) across the street heard me scream "I want you to call the real cops! You have no right to do this! Look at my receipt!" (in Spanish of course) and called my people
Maybe social circles in south america are orders of magnitude bigger than the ones I have, but in an urban area it seems unlikely that there's going to be a random passer by that would know you well enough that they can "call your people"
> And I couldn't use a phone because my hands were full, I was carrying glass bottles home that way because I didn't want to pay for a plastic bag. If I dropped them, they would say since they accused me of stealing them that I destroyed the merchandise and was a thief for sure.
Why was slowly putting the bottles down and then getting out your phone not an option?
It was not an option. I needed a counter to set them down, or drop the glass on the pavement.
The other factor was their verbal and physical impatience. They could have sent only two guards, that would have been fine, they sent four and there were two more a little farther away. That's excessive, that's coercive. They look pissed, so they practice their faces that's part of it, I've seen private security make faces before especially in "Fuck the Law" psych wards. It is tied to their expectation that their demands (not orders, that implies some real authority) be obeyed.
So if an interrogator has tortured a hundred people he will be at some point a coercion magician, need only make a gesture or hint to get people to see in him that in his mind he intends to torture the sufferer, because that was true for a hundred people before. People can see it easily. So these guys expected, because they had in fact ganged up four-on-one when feeling brave, in this case six-on-one because they were feeling cowardly, talking to a lawyer about it they definitely YES kick people on the floor, maleteo as it's called, suit-casing. That's a real thing they definitely do all the time when nobody's looking. So that experience is imprinted in their face, movements and attitude when they order me, impolitely, and refuse to look at a receipt, to come back into the supermarket. So by reflecting in their attitude the experience of coercion and beatings, they communicated to me, unarguably, but in a way they think leaves no proof, that I either did exactly what they said right away or they would attack me.
Maybe that explains the lack of choice...but really I think it was the food was meant to be eaten with special thanks given to GOD for it. Small feast. That was the real reason I couldn't drop it, so I couldn't duke it out either, hence screaming. Those guards can suck it, obviously if they need to gang up six-on-one they're worthless fighters. It would have been my first sevensome.
I don't understand how you came to this conclusion when you simultaneously say
> [Jessica] called my people, whom I couldn't reach because I left my phone at home
If you had a phone, you could've just...called them yourself.
I didn't have a bag, that's what started it all. You don't get bags anymore in Chile[2]. The cashier, CE. NEWEN according to the receipt, accused me of not paying apparently in retaliation for my saying the plastic bag she offered was not worth the 57 cents the Walmart subsidiary charged for it (490 Chilean pesos)[1]. I decided to go without. Until her accusation that I didn't pay, I was carrying everything carefully in my arms.
So I was carrying two pint-sized cans of beer, a glass jar of olives, and a glass jar of anchovies all in my arms. Needed a surface if I was to set them down, in fact after being shepherded I set them down in an empty shopping cart before I could take out the receipt in my pocket, so my turn to make demands began.
[1] So this was the event that changed my attitude and just divulge on Hacker News.
[2] It's always minimal shit, one time it was over 1 cent in electricity, for which I offered to pay a dollar on the spot. Always minimal shit. Those plastic bags cost like 1.3 cents apiece, to make. Pure profit.
[3] And since this, I bring my own, which was the government's idea in not supplying bags any longer.
So I left that one at home, and in fact one of the people who came grilled me over and over as we walked down Victoria Subercaseaux "why didn't you bring your phone?" "WHY DIDN'T YOU BRING YOUR PHONE?"
Well I told him I had a similar phone, just no radio, and was connecting to the Walmart subsidiary's wifi with it, explicitly ordering the guards for the password after the cashier, CE NEWEN according to the receipt, made her premeditated apology. But surprise, screaming worked. It actually worked better! It was much better for someone else to call on my behalf than for me to call myself. And secondly, too predictable, they can tear the phone out of your hands, these guards were in gang-up beating mode, so they would not have tolerated a phone, the obvious choice. Very impatient and there were six of them, apparently armed.
When I got home and received a call, the phone I was supposed to take, its battery died. So battery would have died calling people on my own behalf, when the battery dies unexpectedly, the battery meter acts weird, it's not like getting locked out, when it dies it's a brick, you can't call emergency services.
I couldn't slowly put anything on the ground, these guards were in Fuck the Law mode. Evidently, because they never had any interest in my receipt, or my testimony. Six, 6 guards, shepherding me coercively back to the Walmart subsidiary where they controlled all the cameras and knew the terrain, could make up any shit they wanted. And a lawyer that came, called Nacho, told me exactly that, these guys don't like calling police because they want that power for themselves.
The uniforms say SWAT on them, S-W-A-T, supposedly it's SWAT-branded private security apparel, nothing to do with American Special Weapons And Tactics like in the movies. Like Apple computer having nothing to do with apples, just a brandname, "nombre de fantasía", it's not like actual fruit. So they're trying to intimidate people with the power of the law, precisely so people don't dare defend themselves, to imply their victim will get accused resisting arrest.
Sorry, but you could have used a phone.
It would be nice to not live that way sometimes you know? There are places where people aren’t conditioned to feel that way.
I’ve also been the first to report tree limbs blocking roads and a water main that burst to non-emergency lines, again expediting services to fix them and reducing inconvenience overall.
I’ve never felt like this was some conditioning of paranoia, only that I was enabled to help in ways that I wasn’t able to 20 years ago.
I will not risk to have to face such a situation alone or have to leave a person in distress just to call for help
would be insanely forever grateful if you'd come down and talk to me NB my email is in profile
(Inconvenience is not what I call a mishap)
I grew up in the country, and a few times had to walk 20 miles home, due to a dead car. Being a rural area, after 10pm, I might see 1 or 2 cars the entire walk home (4 hours and a bit).
During the day, there were times my car broke down, or I ran out of gas, so knocking on doors (a mile or so usually awake) was a better choice.
Often, a kind person would have some gas.
Compare this to ... the city. If you can yell loudly, literally thousands of people can hear you.
Similarly, people used paper maps while driving which were cumbersome, but didn’t live under the expectation or the opportunity of traveling to new locations regularly.
Maybe a 100" TV would be about the same.
But sadly, it is harder to get paper maps now, for obvious reasons.
I don't know anyone who expects me to be available 24/7.
Most people I know text don't text back immediately either.
It's a you problem, not a societal one.
Set some fucking boundaries and start acting like an adult.
But my point was, there are other people around. Yell, bang on a house's door, go into the gas station, etc etc.
There are mountain tops that have cell service now days (great line of sight!). People get lost in the woods pretty often.
Heck just having a compass + map that works offline can get people unstuck. How many lost person stories used to end with "and he died just a few miles from the nearest town"?
Of course that sentence is now relegated to history because because almost everyone has a GPS in their pocket!
What if they subsidized them so that you could make emergency calls with no monthly fee? I wonder how many lives they would save if it was so readily available people didn't think of leaving cell range without one?
Hell, 80 years ago planes took off without any electronics and with high explosives on board, were shot at and even returned!*
* except for those who did not
Sure, most people didn't die because of lacking safety nets. But some did and I don't think "it worked for most without" is a sufficient argument to ditch them.
and roughly 1/3 of them will yell at you to shut up, half of the remaining will just silently wish it, with the remaining not noticing
never???
How do you possibly have enough information to know that?!
But that just isn't true. Being able to use a mobile radio to summon emergency services earlier has statistically significant association with improved outcomes [0]. It isn't just about what happens to you, it's about what you can do for others you come across in emergencies. 25 years ago, I'd need to drive a minimum of 15-30 minutes to the nearest house and hope I was able to use their landline (or break in I guess?), or maybe there would be an open service station within that distance (often not). People died (still do) or suffer serious injury getting lost in the woods very close to home. I nearly did once in the 90s, cross country skiing and being foolish. I went out in the afternoon on a gray, gray overcast day, zero shadows, fresh snow, and as a skier since a child I felt overly confident and didn't take a normal fanny pack even with light (back then of course lamps were a lot crappier pre-LED), water or whatever. It got dark fast, by this point about 15°F, and I got completely, utterly confused. I knew I should be close and indeed reconstructing afterwards (finding my own tracks later in the week) I was within 1/2 mile or so. But it was a half mile through old forest without that clear trails. Fortunately I had had some outdoor training and recognized this was genuine trouble, I didn't try to go back in the woods but crossed a frozen swamp and broke for a farm field, and then from there to an actual house whose light I could see and use as a guide about a mile and a half away. Even if no one was home there'd at least be a road I could follow, fortunately there was someone and I could beg to use their landline and call a friend. But there were directions of travel I could have gone there with no one, and no road, for 6+ miles of mountainy forest. And if one succumbs to panic, it's easy to end up spending hours going in circles, or even without because sense of direction is hard with zero markers, no stars or the like. Or are fine, but fall and break a leg or something. This happens. People die. I and friends worked as First Responders and later mountain rescue volunteers of various levels. It's all well and good to say "well you should never do that" but humans are imperfect, even experienced ones. Having access to quite accurate near term weather forecasts alone is just massive, a boon a lot of us don't stop to appreciate.
Obviously, as tools cell phones have other risks. It's possible to get overconfident with them and take risks that negate the benefits. People have died due to silly things like literally stepping backwards over a cliff trying to get the perfect selfie. And there are other negative effects as this article talks about. Nevertheless, it's wrong to claim everything was fine back in "the good old days" when life expectancy was significantly lower [1]. You don't have to have a fancy smart phone to have a basic comms, GPS and map, but that doesn't negate how valuable those can be.
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0: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22142669/
1: https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/life...
For example, this thread is about someone in the city, taking a walk (eg, to the corner store or some such), and not feeling safe.
It's all about stats, likelyhood, etc.
I have a hard time imagining anyone not having been in a situation that was made dangerous by the lack of ability to communicate with others. Muggings, beatings, rapes, killings. Accidents, car crashes. Running out of gas, getting lost, losing your wallet. Being unable to reach family for an emergency when they're out.
Even meeting up with your friends was a pain in the ass.
The "connectedness" can be annoying or overwhelming, and the feeling of security when carrying a phone is probably overestimated in our heads, but before phones and cctvs any random moron could just kill you and get away with it if nobody was around. Some of the safety we feel is very real indeed.
Most of the stuff you mention above is not safer due to phones, only mere convenient.
For example, how is running out of gas dangerous? You just end up walking, or hitching a ride.
And if cell phones helped so much, wouldn't the stats show it?