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The latest macOS, after a lot of praise, has proven to be really buggy to me. At least liquid glass only had poor readability, but now windows go missing/turn invisible almost daily and it’s getting seriously annoying.

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It's so extremely buggy! I upgraded to Golden Gate early (tho after release) because everyone (including here) said it's so much better than Tahoe, but it has fixed no bugs which annoyed me with Tahoe and introduced so many new ones. Mission Control frequently switches to the wrong window (perfectly reproducible bugs which result in the wrong window coming forward). And in Mission Control, windows now overlap each other, are overlapped by the dock, and end up partially outside the screen, in ways they just never did in any earlier macOS release. The Launchpad replacement part of Spotlight in 26 was always super buggy but has gotten even more buggy in 27. Just yesterday the WiFi menu in the menu bar beach balled.

iOS text input is also super buggy now, with frequent rendering glitches where the new blue words from "AI" suggestions or whatever overlap other text, there are stale blue squiggles which are hold-overs from grammatical issues which have since been fixed, completely nonsensical grammatically nonsense suggestions, etc.

The decrease in quality from 15 to 26 and then 26 to 27 is staggering.

> because everyone (including here) said it's so much better than Tahoe

Is today the day you learn there is Apple astroturfing on this forum?

You'd think there is no point in astroturfing the latest macos. They make no money from you or me upgrading their OS software. If anything it is a net negative for apple's brand to have me upgrade and face the B.S. newer OSs saddle upon you. The turfing would do better to keep me on my current OS if the goal is to increase my pleasurable feelings towards the apple brand.

New releases of macOS often drop older hardware, so perhaps pressuring people to be running the latest version incentivizes regular hardware upgrades. Especially considering Apple's push for local AI; new versions of macOS can gate AI features behind newer hardware.

They make no money from you either way this quarter, but people talking about bad experiences are sure to deter new customers. I guess Apple is just counting on their walled garden to keep existing customers from leaving.

Entangling the whole system with the tentacles of an AI squid does not quite equate to "making no money from you or me".

What is the profit angle? So what? That is just them paying for devs to write that up for total waste of money unless they sell me a subscription to make money off of me. How are they making more money? Will they sell me a siri subscription? That is one way, but that isn't what this is doing. This is literally negative brand fuel turfing this update on this forum in particular. They should want to hide it under the rug and not scare more people off to linux instead of macos for their home compute. Macos is hanging on a thread already. normies don't buy macs anymore, they buy ipads. The division is on a thread and spending on turfing makes no sense here. Just alienates the remaining crop of users and buys no newer ones.

It might be, people have high expectations of this place.

> I upgraded to Golden Gate early (tho after release)

One would think that after this many macOS releases, all the techies would have learned to wait till the .1/.2 update drops with the critical bugfixes...

I mean it's literally identical today as it was on release day. Exactly 0 of the new or old bugs I experience have been touched since then.

And I write software which other people sometimes run on macOS; I need to know whether that software works on the new OS, and fix it if it doesn't.

> Exactly 0 of the new or old bugs I experience have been touched since then

I mean, that's at least in part because the first update (confusingly numbered .2) isn't out yet. Which is pretty normal for Apple releases. Wait a few months for a stable experience.

> I need to know whether that software works on the new OS, and fix

Yeah, I get the pain. To some extent this is just the price for being a developer (and I have had similar early-adopter issues on Windows for the same reason)

> I mean, that's at least in part because the first update (confusingly numbered .2) isn't out yet

Ah, my bad. I assumed 27.0.0 would be the release version so since I'm running 27.0.1, there has been one update.

> Mission Control

Turns out rewriting the entire thing was probably a bad idea

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