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the workers dont even really have american undergrad degrees

Please don't use the word "genocide" to refer to a decrease in household wealth, especially while an actual genocide is occurring, where millions of people die in missile explosions. It devalues the word.

when people cannot make a good enough income to have children when young, and only manage to squeeze out one at 35. you have to wonder what exactly the word for that is?

Wealth inequality?

fertility trap, with precarity as its driver and delayed, reduced reproduction as its expression

but when this occurs within the context of a deliberate shutting them out of the labor market, it is certainly directly affecting who reproduces.

"Deliberately" means it's someone's intention. Who's deliberately doing it?

not genocide

You watch too much social media shit. People just don’t want to have children.

And in a 2024 Pew survey, among childless adults under 50 who considered themselves unlikely ever to have children:

Didn't want children - 57%

Couldn't afford children - 36%

Not sure what "american undergrads" means? If someone graduates from an American university wouldn't that make them an American undergrad? Or do you just mean someone who was born in the US that then graduated from an American university? Also how can you tell where someone was born just by looking at them, especially in the US?

its a really straightforward phrase, why are you arguing semantics?

Because international students are less than 3% of undergraduate enrollment. [1]

So people are trying to understand what do you intend to really say when you say you don’t see American undergraduates anymore and that it’s all internationals.

[1] https://livehandbook.org/higher-education/miscellaneous/inte...

yeah and i stand by what i said, big tech isnt hiring undergrads with american degress, or american undergrads. whichever you want to spin it

No one is spinning anything except you. Claiming undergrads are only non Americans these days, which was easily disproven with sources. Now you’re claiming no one is hiring American undergraduates which again can be disproven by looking at actual data. Recent grad unemployment remains pretty low.

https://www.newyorkfed.org/research/college-labor-market#--:...

Genocide is when you fixate on migrants?

i believe that to some degree we are witnessing genocide

The less than 3% of undergraduate enrollment of international students is genocide?

https://livehandbook.org/higher-education/miscellaneous/inte...

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