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Meanwhile people I know have been driven to suicide as their only (legal) option to escape the pain, or spending their food money for illegal opioids that might do nothing for you at best or kill you at worst (fentanyl), instead of having reasonable lives and getting safe and known medication from a pharmacy. And these are people who did nothing wrong and hurt nobody. I suspect history is not going to look back kindly on the people who have mismanaged this in such a grotesque and inhumane way (such as politicians and bureaucrats who waved a magic wand and decided that all doctors should scale some percentage of patients down or face legal threats from the DEA or FDA and possibly loss of license), under the guise of trying to help.
Didn't the driver call the police though?
I have little sympathy for the driver, but it does seem like the cyclist should have reported the driver to the police rather than taking the law into their own hands.
low testosterone though, is something many men (including me) have, but practically no doctor is willing to treat. They have one enormous range of "normal" that is calculated including 80 year old men and 20 year old men in the same pool (even though testosterone levels plummet as you age), and if you aren't in the 90 year old man levels (even as a 30 year old) insanely low category they'll just tell you "you're normal" and won't do anything.
After 5 years of getting worse and worse I read something online about that, and even though my levels was right around 300 (I'm in my low 30s) the doc dismissed it. I found a doc who would treat it tho. I'm on a small dose of testosterone replacement therapy, and I am already feeling so much better I can't even believe it. It honestly fills me with rage the way the medical establishment failed me and continues to fail men in this.
If I accidentally eat some dairy, starting about 2 days later and lasting for a few days, I'll feel really terrible about myself and like there is no hope. Often times there's some suicidal thoughts in there too. Absolutely not worth it.
But I'm not really seeing the connection here or why it invalidates the Unabomber example.
I don't think recognizing that is conflicting at all with a positive outlook, or the choice to be optimistic, or a humanist, etc. You can choose to believe it or choose not to believe it, and still value human life and try to progress humanity forward.
Also don't underestimate the value/incentive of following your conscience, acting out your beliefs etc. Cognitive dissonance (which results from not doing so) is deeply uncomfortable and a good motivator for being "altruistic."
I think this is an interesting argument, and I think it translates to a real world example quite well. For example, if my older kid hits younger kid I have to either:
1. Punish the older kid, taking the "side" of the younger kid
2. Not punish the older kid, thus taking the "side" of the older kid
however I think there's more nuance here than just that, because either of the kids could be lying. I wasn't' there, I have no video footage or proof, so I can only investigate and interrogate, and at some point I have to make a decision. Often times it comes down to the question of which is worse? Punishing an innocent kid, or letting a crime go unpunished?
The answer to that is far from clear to me. As an authority and neutral arbiter, I have a duty to administer justice, and I don't think taking a view that punishing an innocence can be worse than not punishing a guilty (obviously individual circumstances really matter here).
I also have a full time job, and I can't arbitrate between my kids all day long. I have limited time/attention. Given that there are dozens of issues every day that come up, and I don't have enough bandwidth to handle them, some packets will by necessity have to drop.
How do you know which position on which issue is the "right" one to default too when you don't have enough information? Given your argument, you must default to one of them. What criteria do you use when you have limited info?
I think this is an outgrowth of the "use whatever power you have to push for change" culture. It has been highly effective in the past, particularly with gay marriage, and I think those victories gave it enough gas to run for many years even without success. There's also the social points that one gets from it as well. I know of at least one project that added a BLM banner to their site because of social pressure, even though they felt that much of the protesting had gone too far (burning businesses, looting, blocking traffic, etc). The whole "not to take a side is to take a side" is a powerful social pressure to conform. I know of one other project that added a BLM banner so they could get on an "awesome list of BLM supporting software" or something like that which drove them a lot of traffic. Anyway my point is that there are lots of motivations for such, and I suspect many if not most aren't because the person has a deep and abiding passion for the cause (though without a doubt, some do).
To many people, the idea that a small business owner would have their store burned to the ground because someone else in their town (or on the other side of their country) did something bad, is a massive dick move. Yet, this happened numerous times during the summer of BLM in 2020 and it was widely defended with things like, "everything is political" and "not to take a side is to take a side" and "you're either with us or you're against us" and "mostly peaceful protests." There was even a famous "looting is reparations" in articles and at least one book called "In Defense of Looting."
I guess that's the thinking?
After doing "new patient" appointments (which by the way were like $200 to $300 each) and not having a doc willing to take me on as a patient unless I dropped the opioids, and making several calls (who refused to tell me over the phone whether the doctor was even open to controlled substances without that $300 "new patient" appointment) I gave up. Since coming off the opioids my quality of life has plunged. I struggle with depression and thoughts of suicide now, especially when I'm unable to leave the house or my bed. I went from stable and productive and what doctors used to say is the model patient, to being miserable. Every doc has offered to give me additional antidepressants or crank up the doses of those, but none are willing to treat the pain that is exacerbating it.
I absolutely believe that what the medical establishment is doing to people like us (withholding treatment that we know works) is cruel and borders on torture. It is the epitome of taking macro-level stats and explanations and applying them broadly on the micro-level, regardless of the harm caused.
I believe Hippocrates would be rolling over in his grave to hear that these people took an oath to "do no harm."
For the record. I mostly don't blame the doctors. They are protecting their medical licenses, which the DEA and FDA have proven they are willing to revoke over the slightest anomaly. When the feds started throwing pain specialists in federal prison because some tiny percent of their patients were abusers, it really drove home that individual doctors are not allowed to think anymore. You implement government policy, or you risk financial ruin and even jail time. I don't blame them for being cowards. I probably wouldn't risk imprisonment on a stranger either.