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EtiusPrimeon I stole the data in millions of people’s Google accounts

And this should not surprise anyone !

Sometimes, i don't even understand my closest friends. This should not be anything you need to tell anyone...

EtiusPrimeon Messenger Comparisons – Threema, Signal, Telegram and WhatsApp

well, there are some reasons for [1][2], it also was on HN before too [3]. I came up to it as i was looking for an alternate which is free, real end-to-end encryption (not just to the server) and doesn't need your or any phone number to create an account. There is a payed Version (obviously for professional occasions) and also a Desktop Version. So all in all a great Package. I suppose it makes money through it payed Version. (havn't checked that, just assume it) It promisses not to steal data and says its not possible by design.[4]

[1] https://www.militarytimes.com/flashpoints/2020/01/23/deploye... [2]https://www.securemessagingapps.com/ [3]https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22129436 [4]https://medium.com/cryptoblog/the-untrusted-server-19aff573c...

EtiusPrimeon Messenger Comparisons – Threema, Signal, Telegram and WhatsApp

'More' independent overview:

https://www.securemessagingapps.com/

i recommend Wickr Me. Its free, Privacy friendly and (almost) stable.