He did a Nazi salute on national TV!? Three times!
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Oh, yeah, sure. They'll get right on that. Patriot act is going away any day now. Climate change and healthcare and judicial / law enforcement reform going to be addressed any second.
I have to imagine you don't if you can say this with a straight face...
Anyone paying attention knows the market is in a weird place, and large swings today are the small swings of the past. It's hardly a "plummet" when the amortized line for the past month, including today, is mostly a linear decline.
We've had a couple of single-day 4% drops over the past few months too. Oh no, the market is the lowest it's been in... 3 months!? This is the largest decline we've seen in... 4 months!?
Could it be a market correction? Could it be a full-on collapse? Sure.
But is a single 4% drop worth a headline "plummeting into correction territory"? Not really.
Still +4% YoY.
24/7 sensationalist news is just exhausting.
They explain why this happens in the article.
If you're the type who doesn't: probably 90% of the time.
This feels like goal-post moving now, with questions less genuinely curious about an answer and more trying to "get" me. How am I supposed to answer that, it depends on the task and the model and the harness and specific human being using it.
Use it or don't, I don't care, but at least be genuine in the discussion.
If I could just ask a single sentence and get back pre-filtered, high-quality answers I would be stoked.
Of course when you arbitrarily limit the problem domain to some specific example, you can make any tool seem pointless and stupid. It's when you expand your goals to things that aren't trivial that you get benefits.
Do we need not Mathematica or NumPy because calculators can add just fine?
Integrated systems have come a long way for highly optimized mobile and laptops designs with specific hardware in mind. But even if everything went perfectly - DLSS 5 on a 5090 halves the frame rate and requires a 5090. And it can only do a single style - gritty, high contrast lighting photorealism.
In 10 years will new GPUs primarily be AIPUs? Sure, probably, but they'll still be discrete and they'll still have significant raster and ray tracing pipelines to provide the basis of rendering.
Then again, maybe AGI will come and hardware will fundamentally revolutionize overnight.
Perhaps I'm being overly generous to the parent's point, but it stands to reason that we make a lot of choices of where and how much trust we give away. This is just another one of those points.
She goes from the confident pilot speak to panicked reports to starting to scream and hyperventilate, while doing her best to recover and communicate what's happening to the tower. At some point you hear them acknowledge that it's too late and they're all going to die. And then one last scream before suddenly cutting out.
It's just that gut-wrenching empathy and feeling of helplessness.
I would personally say that people should listen to this stuff, though. Life is hard and fragile, and even though it's hard, empathizing with this suffering makes sure we understand the real costs of our mistakes.
I saw way too many dismiss a million deaths by COVID. So many people bat their eyes at 100 people dying in a plane crash now. If they heard the recordings of these kinds of last moments, I think we'd be at less risk of our (moral/procedural) standards slipping.
And how very "hacker news" of you to discourage someone from playing with SOTA technology in unique ways.
I disagree - I think most people would say a dog or a horse are quite intelligent and have "souls". But dogs and horses don't have the conceptual ideas of freedom and economy, and they enjoy doing the work they're given (in part because we spent hundreds to thousands of years breeding them to do that).
So as long as we're kind and treat them well, nobody has a problem with their slavery. The idea being that exploitation is linked to suffering, but simply having an asymmetrical relationship is not inherently cruelty.
Not to be crass, but we can also bring up other concepts like BDSM. Violence and domestic abuse are objectively bad. But in the context of a safe relationship where all parties are informed, consenting, and enjoy the abuse they're receiving... Now violence and domestic abuse are pretty clearly morally neutral.
I'd also _much_ rather do my development on a persistent, always-on host so I can switch what computer I'm using for a head or turn off my computer and drive home while Claude works overnight.
But is it unethical to create a being who derives great joy from being a machine-slave and completing tasks, then provide it tasks to achieve that joyfulness?
We already have a gradient of examples for this. Is it inherently wrong to exploit living things for profit? If not, why are work animals not treated with the same level of disdain as human slavery? Horse riding? Disability assistance animals? Because they don't have the same desires as humans, the predominant concern is their wellbeing over the intrinsic wrongness of slavery.
Going further down the gradient, we steal milk from farm animals (sometimes by depriving their babies). Eggs from poultry. Honey from bees.
I can't actually attest to the state-of-mind of Dario or other Anthropic researchers, but I don't think it's a stretch to say you can believe in the ethical exploitation of an intelligent being, so long as the incentives are aligned that both parties are happy with the process.
Then again, maybe he really is an absurdly evil person and what we're doing is extremely wrong! But I'm glad to actually be able to talk about it for once... so thanks for your reply!
To be clear, Anthropic does seem to be taking this somewhat seriously. Their reports on training always discuss model wellfare, they ban abusive behavior toward the AI, etc. At one point they were asking some philosophers and theologists about the implications of this all.
And they're pretty relentlessly mocked and called a "cult" for doing so, even on this forum.
The earning report doesn't need to be bad for investors to see the projected outcomes for future quarters and say "hm... my money is best put somewhere else, whose earnings report showed more potential for growth".
If it keeps going or spreads to other, unrelated businesses (no, I don't count 2-5% adjustments), that's something to notice, but this just seems like people reacting fairly expectedly to the content of the report? To put this in perspective, Intel is still up 68% YoY.
But, as always, we'll see in the coming hours/days.