Viral licenses like the GPL are a shot across the bow for anyone foisting downstream code and laundering it as their own features. Omarchy can still use Asahi's upstream code, but they generally shouldn't take credit for downstream work.
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Viral licenses like the GPL are a shot across the bow for anyone foisting downstream code and laundering it as their own features. Omarchy can still use Asahi's upstream code, but they generally shouldn't take credit for downstream work.
The top comment is correct to question the title, as it leads to more interesting HN comments than the driveby CEO pugilism that many bottom-barrel commentators participate in. Your response to the top comment is condescending and speculative instead of curious or informative. It seems to me like people are fulminating on both sides, and clearly Nvidia's board doesn't know the whole story either.
HN's title, as the top comment alleges, is extremely misleading as to what the board's goals are.
HN has a rule about titles to avoid derailed threads like this.
AI cannot squeeze blood from a stone. We still have outstanding issues (eg. PSCI support) that AI hasn't reverse-engineered. Is that "pretty soon" supported, too? What about the Secure Enclave? Do you think there's an ice cube's chance in hell that Linux ever supports it?
Unless you're willing to prove that AI can do this stuff, kindly refrain from making ridiculous predictions because "muh AI" will allegedly fix it. It won't. There are undocumented interfaces that AI will never fully reverse-engineer, that's just how Apple designed their SOC.
And yet they have a total of zero upstreamed PRs, and haven't fixed enormous and glaring issues like PSCI control either.
It's almost as if the parent is correct, and Apple's ARM architecture isn't standardized enough for ordinary models to blindly reverse-engineer without documentation. If tokens were the only constraint on supporting Apple Silicon, we'd have reversed the entire SOC device tree years ago. Alas...
If you think that laptops deserve to become e-waste when the OEM says so, then your opinion can be safely discarded.
Apple eventually stops OEM support for Macs, which means that support via an alternative operating system is a foremost imperative.
I'm sorry that you're absorbed in your fantasy, but it's not my job to accommodate it.
How, exactly? AFAIK, Asahi officially supports just as many Macs as Omarchy does. The vast majority of Apple Silicon support in Omarchy comes from upstream Linux changes merged by Asahi, not any of the Omarchy devs.
The only feature I'm aware of Omarchy adding is the fingerprint reader driver, which is in such a poor state that it could never be merged upstream. Which, if that's the standard of quality Omarchy is holding themselves to, they're the ones getting left in the dust.
Methinks the lady doth protest too much.
You're part of a minority.
> What other things outside of containers or iPad apps?
Linux with fully native Vulkan drivers, for one.
You're downstream of all of those kernel and Mesa changes on Gravity.
I have no particular love for Asahi, but they've made 10x more progress than the vibe coded alternatives.
Bully on me for expecting narcissists to grow a spine.
It may shock you to hear that coding was never the bottleneck for emulation or reverse-engineering.
Perhaps the 30+ years of non-LLM generated Linux support for UEFI/ACPI and ARM device tree chips has something to do with it.
> It is quite remarkable how far along support has come
Is it? All I'm seeing from that page is that they forked Asahi's M1-M4 work, and then failed to bring up M5 and M6. What's remarkable here?