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boraoztunc

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boraoztunc··on Show HN: I built a site that lets users find playlists by songs they contain
I still use last.fm, connected to my Spotify account. Before it was connected to the iTunes with their desktop app. I always loved their listening analysis and charts, matching with other people's taste.
boraoztunc··on Living in an Unreal World: A Film by Adam Curtis
We are too trapped in a system. We cannot see beyond it. But there is more out there.
boraoztunc··on Dieter Rams and 10 principles for good design
Dieter Rams introduced in Braun a systematic design, linked to form and function, its varied products represented a utilitarian aesthetic, coming from the Ulm school. He made a significant contribution to Braun’s image, driving a new design approach focused on functionality.
boraoztunc··on Adobe to acquire Figma for $20B
why why why
boraoztunc··on Ask HN: Does targeted advertising work at all?
Advertising and online advertising are different things. Advertising was a thing, long before technology. Great ad people (like David Ogilvy) was created effective, targeted advertising and achieved success.

How to Create Advertising That Sells Ad by David Ogilvy [1972] https://boraoztunc.medium.com/how-to-create-advertising-that...

What I meant was, there is nothing wrong with advertising, or targeting right people to deliver value, products, services to them with creative approaches. Online advertising though, especially programmatic, is totally a different scheme.

I suggest reading more about; "Surveillance Capitalism"

Professor Shoshana Zuboff, author of “[The Age of Surveillance Capitalism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Age_of_Surveillance_Capita..., who coined the term surveillance capitalism in 2014, defines it as;

" …the unilateral claiming of private human experience as free raw material for translation into behavioral data. These data are then computed and packaged as prediction products and sold into behavioral futures markets — business customers with a commercial interest in knowing what we will do now, soon, and later."

In an interview with The Gurdian, Zuboff explains how surveillance capitalism is a human creation;

>It lives in history, not in technological inevitability. It was pioneered and elaborated through trial and error at Google in much the same way that the Ford Motor Company discovered the new economics of mass production or General Motors discovered the logic of managerial capitalism.

>Surveillance capitalism was invented around 2001 as the solution to financial emergency in the teeth of the dotcom bust when the fledgling company faced the loss of investor confidence. As investor pressure mounted, Google’s leaders abandoned their declared antipathy toward advertising. Instead they decided to boost ad revenue by using their exclusive access to user data logs (once known as “data exhaust”) in combination with their already substantial analytical capabilities and computational power, to generate predictions of user click-through rates, taken as a signal of an ad’s relevance.

>Operationally this meant that Google would both repurpose its growing cache of behavioural data, now put to work as a behavioural data surplus, and develop methods to aggressively seek new sources of this surplus.

>The company developed new methods of secret surplus capture that could uncover data that users intentionally opted to keep private, as well as to infer extensive personal information that users did not or would not provide. And this surplus would then be analysed for hidden meanings that could predict click-through behaviour. The surplus data became the basis for new predictions markets called targeted advertising.

Here was the origin of surveillance capitalism in an unprecedented and lucrative brew: behavioural surplus, data science, material infrastructure, computational power, algorithmic systems, and automated platforms. As click-through rates skyrocketed, advertising quickly became as important as search. Eventually it became the cornerstone of a new kind of commerce that depended upon online surveillance at scale.

The success of these new mechanisms only became visible when Google went public in 2004. That’s when it finally revealed that between 2001 and its 2004 IPO, revenues increased by 3,590%.

Surveillance capitalism is no more limited to advertising than mass production was limited to the fabrication of the Ford Model T. It quickly became the default model for capital accumulation in Silicon Valley, embraced by nearly every startup and app.

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Further sources if you are interested:

VPRO Documentary Shoshana Zuboff on surveillance capitalism https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIXhnWUmMvw

The Intercept The Rise of Surveillance Capitalism https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2s4Y-uZG5zk

High tech is watching you https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2019/03/harvard-profe...

boraoztunc··on Ask HN: Does targeted advertising work at all?
Mostly no, it does not. Actually there is nothing wrong with targeted advertising, products and ads are meant to target specific people in its nature. But online advertising are a scheme for tech companies to make money.

Adtech was created to make the buying and selling of online advertising so much more efficient. Today, about $350 billion dollars is spent on online advertising. 70%+ of it is bought programmatically. And according to the ANA and PwC, 70% of advertising dollars spent on online programmatic advertising never touch a human being. Of $200 billion in annual programmatic ad spend, $140 billion disappears in "ad fees, fraud, non-viewable impressions, non-brand-safe placements, and unknown allocations".

See The Programmatic Poop Funnel: https://i2.createsend1.com/ei/d/DD/DB6/ACD/030147/csfinal/Sc...

I love reading Bob Hoffman about this subject.

"The lovely fantasy of online advertising -- in which the same person who was frantically clicking her remote to escape from TV advertising was going to merrily click her mouse to interact with online advertising -- is going to go down as one of the great marketing delusions of all time. It has been undermined by an unfortunate fact of nature -- no one in his right mind volunteers for advertising.

By a factor of about a thousand to one, people who can interact with media do so to avoid advertising -- not engage with it."

https://www.bobhoffmanswebsite.com/newsletters

boraoztunc··on Ask HN: Who is hiring? (November 2021)
Why there are geographical restrictions for remote positions, like US, Canada, Europe and such?

Talent is everywhere, and people willing to work in time zones where companies, teams operate. Does it really matter where the employee located?

boraoztunc··on macOS Monterey
This is really frustrating for me as well, I've been manually killing CC processes for so long that it became a usual task in my workflow, a daily habit. Adobe is one of the companies I hate soo much for this shady moves, and I'm stuck with its softwares involuntarily.

But decision is made, I'm upgrading to a new macbook pro soon and will change my design tools. At least I'll try hard before installing creative cloud.

boraoztunc··on macOS Monterey
ohh they def will. https://growth.design/case-studies/adobe-cancel-subscription
boraoztunc··on Ask HN: Is anyone monitoring popular apps to check if they're listening?
Wondering the same thing..I'm having targeted ads based on my verbal conversations, way too many for coincidence.
boraoztunc··on Kerberos: Open-Source Video Surveillance
a system in "The Ministry of Surveillance"
boraoztunc··on Stripe Atlas: the first five years and 20k startups
I was thinking the same, because last year when I was forming the LLC, I remember eliminating Atlas for this reason, also Stripe is not operating in Turkey and not accepting applications.

So I formed through another company, which was cheaper with more features. 500$ for Atlas, and you still have to do a lot of stuff and pay more to move forward.

Even they are not providing services in Turkey, and no intention to fight for this equality, they like to use Turkish founders in marketing materials, videos as you can see in this Atlas campaign. Not feel right.

boraoztunc··on Safari 15 on Mac OS, a user interface mess
This is my habit as well. Rarely click refresh button.
boraoztunc··on Stripe Payment Links
It would be great to have a dedicated page to display all the products, that have been created by Stripe Payment Links. So when I shared the link, customer also can have an option to navigate to that page and view other products, available right there to purchase.

https://buy.stripe.com/dR6cOd9RJ8KS8nufYZ

For this demo link for example, I wanted to see other stickers in "Stripe Sticker Shop". May be this more of a e-commerce feature, rather than a payment/checkout solution, but after all it is all about selling and buying.

boraoztunc··on Notion API – public beta
Not sure about Roam, I've been using Obsidian, and my purpose is for personal, making note archive offline. So never had any need for collaboration. But with Sync and Publish features, maybe there is a possibility.
boraoztunc··on The True Size of Africa (2015)
>> The Good Design Grand Award, arguably Japan’s most prestigious award for design, went out to architect Hajime Narukawa’s completely groundbreaking design for a map of the world. His map, the AuthaGraph World Map, isn’t your average map of the globe: It’s a near-perfect representation of the continents and oceans as they exist on our spherical planet, all laid out on a two-dimensional surface.

https://totravelistolive.co/authagraph-world-map/

boraoztunc··on Notion API – public beta
Obsidian (https://obsidian.md) also offers offline, + for free.
boraoztunc··on Show HN: A portfolio website simulating macOS's GUI using React
Really inspiring. Also pulling this off in 10 days is quite something as well. Bravo!
boraoztunc··on Show HN: A portfolio website simulating macOS's GUI using React
+1
boraoztunc··on Crazy New Ideas
I wonder why Chrome's "Reading Mode" is not activated in Paul Graham's website. I really get used to read articles in Reader Mode, with the same style, background color, font size and without any other distracting elements of the page. His website font size is 13px, which is pretty small. So I copy+paste to Obsidian and read there.
boraoztunc··on Ask HN: What’s the Next Big Thing?
Nope. More close is like where this is going: https://uxdesign.cc/lets-talk-about-that-gpt-3-ai-tweet-that...

Combine this with Neuralink's chip, so I can orchestrate creating a design system with my thoughts, not endless hours of clicking and designing pixel by pixel.

boraoztunc··on Ask HN: What’s the Next Big Thing?
I hope it is next level of computing on every day use, without a keyboard and a mouse. I feel like I've been making keystrokes and clicking since forever.. It would be great to have a mind-digital bridge. Which seems horrifying even while writing, can't imagine how corporations will benefit on this, and try to reach and manipulate us inside, for advertisers to make us buy stuff.

I don't know the next big thing of course, always thought the future is bright, but seeing how everything evolving, our greed to make money, which is pretty an illusion considering we are species living on a planet in space, individually will eventually die, even the consequences of our actions may result turning this habitat to a non livable habitat for our species and others as well.. What is wrong with us?

boraoztunc··on Everything Easy is Hard Again (2018)
“I had fifteen years of experience designing for web clients, she had one year, and yet some how, we were in the same situation: we enjoyed the work, but were utterly confused and overwhelmed by the rapidly increasing complexity of it all. What the hell happened? (That’s a rhetorical question, of course.)”

Exactly how I feel these days.

boraoztunc··on Turkey bans use of cryptocurrencies for payments
Most of the countries are lovely when you are a tourist. Sadly being local under a suppressed government, without solid democracy, justice and freedom of speech, with high taxes and very little services, corruption to the bone, destroyed education, political religion, shitty health care, no woman rights, or any equality at all, is not that lovely.

You are in a thin line in Turkey, your life can change dramatically in a blink of an eye, and where you find yourself in really dangerous positions for very basic reasons.

boraoztunc··on Figma and Canva are taking on Adobe and winning
Same here, 36. I've been using Adobe products since the beginning of my relation with computers, I guess started with Dreamweaver, and now it is so hard to quit, as I use almost all the CC apps professionally, to make my living.

I mentioned here before on another post, it is mostly because of the long-years offline archive, mockups, and all the resources I can find easily, both offline and online. Recently I get my courage and decided to end my subscription, at the last stage of the process they proposed a two-month free, so I took it. What a shame, but I hope I'll decide the same after these two months.

Adobe is really what Steve Jobs described back than; "rapid energy consumption, computer crashes, poor performance on mobile devices, abysmal security, lack of touch support."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thoughts_on_Flash

boraoztunc··on Show HN: Echoes – Discover your personal music streaming stats and new music
def it would be great to have graphs, more insights on listening habits. Currently we don't store/analyze data, but we plan to. which will allow us to serve more meaningful results.

thank you for trying, and take your time to write down your thoughts, they will have great impact on how Echoes evolve. may be we should create a public roadmap, also for these feature requests. There is an announcement integration in the app, top-right notification icon, we'll keep you posted.

boraoztunc··on Show HN: Echoes – Discover your personal music streaming stats and new music
Folks, Echoes is a web app for exploring personal music streaming stats, from services like Spotify, Apple Music, and YouTube Music. We've been developing it as in-house project to sharpen our skills and learn new stuff.

You can connect streaming services (currently Spotify) and explore your music streaming stats; top artists, top tracks, recently played tracks.

Spotify APIs is pretty nice to play with, in the Discover section you can discover more great music based on your streaming data, create playlists that will be added to your Spotify library instantly. Like tracks, follow artists easily that in sync with your Spotify account.

We also use Spotify Web Playback SDK, which is in beta, to provide a full music listening experience without leaving the app.

We will be working on to add more streaming services, and also features. Kindly let us know your thoughts, how we can improve the experience, and what you want to see in a music discovery app like this.

boraoztunc··on Akira Kurosawa’s List of His 100 Favorite Movies (2015)
There are people with different tastes, and great lists you can discover, also they are sending newsletter called "Letterboxd Rushes for you" a weekly Letterboxd digest which mostly evolves with your activities on the website, and includes such as "new reviews by your friends", "popular films with your friends" etc. I like making archives, offline dvds, brochures, posters, and logging movies feels like a digital part of it, and Letterboxd kind of fits perfectly, similar to here actually; people, conversations and content has quality.
boraoztunc··on Adobe Photoshop ships on Macs with Apple Silicon
This is really something I've been thinking for quite some time, canceling my CC subscription (which is monthly) but there are couple of things that kept from executing this decision; first of course loong years of habit (almost 20), hard to leave. After switching to Figma for UI design, my main use of CC for branding, print design is left to Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign and photography editing for Lightroom. I can ditch the others in CC apps in an instant, but I can't Photoshop and Illustrator, because the branding design works need mockups, brushes, textures, stuff and web resources mostly made for PS, also I've a huge offline archive I like using, also there is print work, which I use Illustrator mainly. Adobe products really make me mad, they work in weird ways, crash, lost work and data, plus couple of times in a year something happens to make me connect to client support, these are the times that I really want to cut my all connection with the company and their products.

At some point I'll manage to figure this out and take a bold step further to leave Adobe all behind. I know there are options, tried most of them (Affinity etc), but I make my living through these apps and I need reliable software with resources and community, just like Figma did in a great way for UX/product design, I wish they create side products like CC apps, for print design, even audio design, that would be awesome.

boraoztunc··on New report on Apple’s VR headset: 8K in each eye, potential $3k price tag
If this is happening, it will be for creatives. As Apple's first customer base, and focus for innovation and new products are always creative people; designers, video editors, 3D modelers, game artists, architects, etc... A lightweight VR tool, fully integrated with macOS ecosystem, will be presenting a new way of working. I don't think without a proper innovative way Apple will release a standart VR product, into a already troubled industry.
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