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downer··on Ask YC: AI
> the AI community hasn't been seriously trying to construct strong AI for 25+ years.

Now that's an excuse if I ever heard one. "Uhh... we weren't seriously trying... uhh..."

That's also why I'm not dating Natalie Portman!

> Considering that trying to build strong AI is a pipedream anyway (IMHO)

That's hilarious. Heavier-than-air flying machines, a man on the Moon, sending pictures through invisible AIRWAVES?!? Pipe dreams!

downer··on Ask YC: AI
The difference between the field of AI and the field of aerodynamics is the state-of-the-art in the latter has produced working results -- to say the least!

Meanwhile humans farm gold and solve CAPTCHAs.

downer··on For Sale: Used Social Voting Site, Asking Price $300 Million, Goes By The Name Of Digg
Bill and Ted can't do math.

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I thought the terms were confidential. They really got 18?!? Now I am trying to decide if that really pisses me off to no end or not!

downer··on Ask YC: AI
> Then you're hopelessly out of touch with what most people mean when they say "AI"

Hopeless? Doc, are you telling me there's no cure?!?

In fact, when most people talk about AI, they mean it in the sense of, "do you think computers will one day be as intelligent as humans?". Cf. the moviefilm "AI". If that kind of AI is what you wish to pursue, then the so-called field of AI isn't going to get you there.

I'm reclaiming the term AI for actual AI from the minority that's misusing it and we're having a Pride march on the 23rd. Wheel out your servers and "represent".

downer··on Ask YC: AI
> I'm starting to think we're saying the same thing in different words and with slightly different emphasis. It is thus with most interesting conversations.

I LIKE TURTLES

downer··on Ask YC: AI
You don't really understand something until you implement it. And AI is unlikely to be an algorithm like those we are familiar with...
downer··on Ask YC: AI
> The idea that you have to learn everything before doing anything is a strawman.

If you don't learn everything, then you must have some independent criterion with which to pick and choose; and having such a facility, one may as well simply start down whichever path one feels is most appropriate anyway.

In other words, if you can somehow rule out large swaths of possibilities without even trying them, then you must have some intuitive feel for the problem (or at least, have an intuitive feel for what you think the solution is likely to resemble, whether or not you turn out to be correct). In such a case, you are investigating based on your own intimations and your efforts will develop from there, rather than from from a top-down view -- which has so far been amply demonstrated not to work.

Edit: The recommendation to look "everywhere" is untenable, because at some point you have to stop casting about if you are going to get anything done yourself.

downer··on Ask YC: AI
(response: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=90481)
downer··on For Sale: Used Social Voting Site, Asking Price $300 Million, Goes By The Name Of Digg
The price isn't the only thing that's high.

 Bill: Dude, are we better than Reddit?
  Ted: Like, yeah, man, totally.
 Bill: Dude, like how much better?
  Ted: Like a hundred times, bro!
 Bill: Then we should like sell it for... like... a hundred times as much!
  Ted: Whoah, do you have any idea how much weed that would buy?
 [They look at each other]

 Wyld Stallyns!
downer··on Why we use i, j, and k in for loops

 float    f;
 unsigned u;
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That's how I swing, man.
downer··on Ask YC: AI
When someone says "AI", I think they mean AI, not e.g. path-finding for writing a Quake bot.

Of course a real AI would be much better at all those things you mentioned anyway -- like deciding which of my e-mail messages are spam.

Or carrying on a conversation.

P.S. I'm an AI.

downer··on Ask YC: AI
It's pretty hard to learn something just by reading. It takes doing. That's where you get stuck in someone else's mindset.
downer··on Ask YC: Suggestions for Loved One's Dementia/Alzheimer's
Speculatively, Quercetin (a bioflavonoid, available as a supplement) might help:

https://www.alzinfo.org/newsarticle/templates/archivenewstem...

Alzheimer's is also speculatively related to CJD, i.e. mad cow. That is, many cases of Alzheimer's may actually be undiagnosed CJD. New application of existing drugs may help:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/1490177.stm

Of course for prevention, and/or avoiding re-exposure, I'd avoid anything that came from a cow, or anything fed on cow parts (which pretty much means to avoid any animal product from a factory farm). U.S. food practices are exceedingly ill-advised.

Edit: I recall something about aluminum build-up in the brain, though I'm not sure of how well correlated it is.

http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a1_216a.html

Aluminum-free deodorants and baking powders are very easy considerations.

downer··on Ask YC: AI
If you follow your own path, you will later find various areas of overlap and intersection, but you may avoid sinking into the tar-pit as you would when starting out with ALL the dead weight. It takes tremendous effort to load your brain with all the existing knowledge, and once you do, you may find yourself only able to think in terms of it, having conditioned yourself to other people's failed modes of thinking.
downer··on Ask YC: AI
Many, many people have gone into the field to study the traditional techniques, and glorifying this knowledge has not led to AI.

I don't think a beginner is going to create AI by "luck". But a beginner's mind is not cluttered in the same way as an expert's. This may be what it takes to get working AI.

Expert knowledge is appropriate when discussing proven solutions. AI is speculative at this point.

downer··on Ask YC: AI
That's referring to refusing to use something you KNOW works, simply because it is traditional. Quite different from seeking your own path.

If you follow the classical path, you will become bogged down in the vast field of AI.

Ramanujan started from first principles and worked from there. My guess is that the person(s) who create "actual" AI will use that approach.

downer··on Ask YC: AI
Or you might come up with something that works, by avoiding having your mind crammed and distorted by the classical mess.
downer··on In a Funk, Italy Sings an Aria of Disappointment
"Doubt clouds the family itself: 70 percent of Italians between 20 and 30 still live at home, condemning the young to an extended and underproductive adolescence."

Cost of living. In the U.S., most college graduates can't afford to live on their own in major cities. Jobs require ever-more qualifications and advanced degrees. Productivity goes out the door and escapism comes in when you're stuck with your parents.

That housing bubble was horrible for the economy. Far from a sign of good things happening, it meant owning their own home was out of reach for the vast majority of young people. The amount of productivity and joie de vivre lost cannot be overestimated. Being stuck living with people you don't want to live with is toxic (that includes non-family members, too).

downer··on Ask YC: AI
Doing what has been done in the field would repeat the mistakes.

Doing something original might actually be, you know, original.

downer··on Ask YC: AI
I recommend starting from scratch and ignoring the field. All the field will teach you is very complex ways to NOT have AI.
downer··on Nasty Details of Vista DRM
"That foot that's rapidly approaching my balls hasn't caused me any problems yet."
downer··on Evan Williams: Will it fly? How to Evaluate a New Product Idea
Will It Blend?

http://www.willitblend.com/

downer··on Facebook suing Ontario porn firm
"These requests for information from Facebook generated error messages and were detected as unauthorized attempts to access and harvest proprietary information."

They're being sued for getting HTTP 403 error pages?

The suit alleges Facebook has suffered damages in "excess of $5,000" and has been "irreparably harmed."

D'oh, their valuation is now only 14.999995 billion.

IP fishing expeditions seem like abuse. Sounds like Facebook, flush with their +5 vorpal cash-hoard, are trying it out on lowly 1st-level NPCs.

Getting some practice throwing their weight around and bullying.

downer··on Wikia's Got A Truck Full of Servers -- 1,000 To Be Exact
I hope they can get over their PHP addiction.
downer··on Django Book 1.0 online
That color scheme still has got to go. Django needs a design that at least approaches reasonable aesthetic sensibility.
downer··on Bell Labs Is Gone. Academia Steps In.
> funding an army of startups and small research-oriented firms, both with much lower overhead costs than academia

The big advantage in academia is access to prohibitively expensive equipment. What option was there for Google back then, other than using "free" university computers and bandwidth? No way they could've afforded it at 90s prices. Even though prices have fallen now for that, there's always something too pricey for a startup. What if your research involves a particle accelerator or something else you can't rent hourly from Amazon? Students can get access to resources they simply couldn't otherwise, especially in the hard sciences.

Nobody's going to rent $100k of equipment to a student with a $500 limit Mastercard. Not to mention, a week's rental would probably equal your tuition, so forget about having access to something for an entire semester.

Software startups are an anomaly. If consumer electronics didn't conveniently happen to make inroads for you (as it did with computers and video equipment), the barrier to entry for MOST technical disciplines tends to be as high as ever.

downer··on "The Most Complex Piece of Engineering Known to Man"
Yeah, but making a new "most complex piece of engineering" is fire-and-forget (at least if you move out of state and change your name).

 >apt-get install human-2.0
  Building dependency tree
  Reading state information... Done

  After delivery $2.5 million will be used.
  Do you want to continue [Y/n]? n
  Abort.
downer··on The Next Generation of Neural Networks [Google Tech Talk]
Nice that YouTube's player can finally skip forward.
downer··on "temporary hack"
Try "kludge". I never write "temporary hack".
downer··on Splashup reviewd by a User Interface blog. - It's pretty rough
That's why I suggested using FreeNX and a bootable flash drive, then you DO have all the power on the back-end and aren't limited to a browser on the front end.
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