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I am thinking more like a level below volunteer firepeople, with some regional and national coordination.
... so I would say the problem is "we need to educated blue collar people better so they take advantage of the opportunities to advancement offered by the educational system". That is very true. But, in general, blue collar people get fucked over in multiple ways and this is just one way.
That is very different than "college is a waste" (jesus, what an idiotic thing to even say out loud...)
At college I: learned calculus, computer programming, advanced mathematics, urban planning, how to communicate like a grown up, and those are just the big topics. I also took acting classes and learned social skills and made lifelong friends. When I graduated, a professor arranged my first professional job which was an order of magnitude better than any blue collar gig I had ever had. Now I have an interesting job that I feel good about, make 90k a year with benefits and a pension, and go home at 5:30 every night; this job would not be possible without college. I took out 20,000 in loans to go for the last two years after transfering from community college (with no loan for that).
So, ... what the fuck did you do at college that you are calling it a "waste"? My life is completely different because I went to college, and the same is true for everyone I know.
Now, I think there is a problem when naive, often blue collar people, go to college and don't know how to make the most of that experience: they don't know how to talk to professors so they get their help and friendship, what courses to take, how to study, how to schedule their own time and not spend it getting wasted, or how to use their degree to get professional jobs afterward. Even though I was a returning student, I grew up in a very educated professional world, and that was not hard for me.
Probably doesn't matter, but I got a BA in math from a mediocre regional state school as returning student, graduating at the age of 30 or 31 (I don't remember).
For the folks who in this thread say "just use a point map of occurrences and you would have seen the problem" you are right in this case, but it isn't really enough in most cases.
For one, the boundary of the city limit needs to be shown to see the correlation; perhaps one should map the point occurrences a la Snow, and then overlay all the boundaries you have (mosquito district, city boundary, water district boundary, county, etc...).
Additionally, a point map doesn't tell you rates of occurence, for that you need a denominator, or you can't calculate things like number of occurences divided by total population. One poster mentioned Census Tracts, and I would agree those should be the default boundary, subject to more investigation -- tracts correpsond well to "natural" boundaries, they are mostly consistent over census decades, they are mostly consistent with population (~5k), they nest perfectly with other census boundaries, and they are the smallest geography for which you can get mostly the full suite of population characteristics like education from the ACS.
For some reason tracts feel just wrong to people. I have managers who reject zip codes, but then fixate on weird systems like pixels or equal area hexagons or whatever for which you can't get denominator data and which don't correspond to anything real. I don't understand, though I don't think in public policy / social work education anybody bothers to teach you shit about GIS or Census data unless you know to ask specifically.
A down to earth hemp clothing website would be cool; like if Costco sold hemp clothes...
Side note: it is weird to me that everyone talks about whether researchers can afford to pay for confirmation, but researchers never pay for anything, grants pay for everything. The granting institutions might even be excited to try a confirmation process.
This cost would be built into the grant that funds the lab, and I bet everyone would get used to it after a few years of complaining.
(I think of poor people as the originary arbitrage... Yes, I know what micro economics says about the existence of arbitrages, that's the point.)
Also interesting that I don't think they mentioned cider (paywall preventing me from re-reading), which was a huge thing in America at least until prohibition.
They also live communally in farming colonies of about 80 people (half Dunbar's number) in very remote parts of Western Canada and the Northwestern US. Historically, the Hutterites have pissed off the local non-Hutterite farmers because the colonies are successful and can buy up local land from the non-communal/ religious/ pacifist local farmers; they were run out of South Dakota for their success combined with their pacifism in the early 20th Century.
They are pacifist, just like all Anabaptists (Mennonite, Amish, etc). Unlike English variants of Anabaptism (Quakers, etc), Hutterites and other German derived sects drink quite a bit of alcohol, I think. I think they have a great a-capella singing ritual tradition. I bet their food is great, too. I heard they like hockey.
The ~1900 Hutterites are also famous among population theorist/ demographers because their historical data provided the baseline of the highest possible, yet realistic, human fertility society. They married early (probably with quasi-arranged marriages), had lots of babies (much cheaper to raise in a communal setting), were healthy with relatively low mortality, and kept great records (German heritage...).
They are very much a going concern today, continuing to found new colonies even a few years ago, one in Oregon 14 years ago [3] below. I have always wanted to visit a colony, but I live in the urban Puget Sound and the closest colony is about 3.5 hour drive away. I have read that they are quite welcoming, as long as you are quite respectful in return (a fair trade, to my mind).
[1] http://www.hutterites.org/
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hutterite
[3] http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=200...
I think it would be a great museum for undeveloped land in Tacoma or Oakland, though.