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fourgreen··on Nobody pays for FOSS, we can force them to
An interesting problem is which filter apply first. On one hand, you don't want to waste time discussing if it is socially acceptable (such discussions tend to be long and nonconclusive) for things which we are not sure if they would work. On the other hand, you don't want to waste time discussing if it would work if the solution is clearly wrong from ethical point of view.
fourgreen··on Nobody pays for FOSS, we can force them to
> If you want people to pay you for your software, stop writing it for free. Conversely, if you write it for free, don't expect people to pay you for it. Otherwise you are no better than someone at an intersection with a bottle of Windex and a squeegee who, unsolicited, cleans a windshield and then demands the driver to pay for it.

There are two ways to think about this whole situation, two mindsets. One is "what is ok to do?", the other one is "given my goals, what actions will lead to the desired outcome". I don't know any good name for the first mindset, and the second one I would call a chess player mindset.

We should at least understand and aknowledge the difference between these two mindsets. Laurie Voss (the author of the post) uses this second way of thinking, you are using the first one, so it will be hard for both of you to come to any agreement.

fourgreen··on Truth is not a direction: a Tarski attack on LLM probes
So you say that: 'Yields falsehood when preceded by its quotation' yields falsehood when preceded by its quotation. does not have any meaning? Why? I think that both "'Yields falsehood when preceded by its quotation'" and "yields falsehood when preceded by its quotation" have very clear meaning, and the whole sentence also does. The sentence very clearly and precisely mean something, just it is neither true or false.
fourgreen··on Noroboto: Lying Fonts and Mitigation in Rust
I also had this idea a few month ago: https://czterycztery.pl/blog/show.php?f=1763873614-EN https://czterycztery.pl/inne/zmylkowy_pdf/#english
fourgreen··on Why Do the Police Exist? (2020)
The parent said that the police has never helped him. You said that given the problems he has, the police should not help him, because it isn't worth money and effort. Notice that you are talking past him: he didn't say "they should have helped me", only "they didn't help me".
fourgreen··on Ask HN: Share your personal website
https://czterycztery.pl/#en
fourgreen··on Accepting US car standards would risk European lives
Is it true? We, the people, currently pay for roads, we would pay for them in the alternative system - so the total amount of the money we need to pay would not change, only some prices (or taxes) would go down and others would go up. Either we care about having food and we would pay high prices for them (with money we saved elsewhere) or we don't care and we wouldn't pay.
fourgreen··on Misleading PDF: visual content differs from extracted text
By crafting custom fonts where glyphs are swapped, a PDF can display different content then it logically contains.
fourgreen··on [dead]
Hm, one more thought. Notice that in English the important part of the problem with "grow a garden calculator" is that you are not sure if "garden" is an adjective or a noun. In Polish there isn't such ambiguity: "garden" as a noun is "ogród", "garden" as an adjective is "ogrodowy". For people who learn Slavic languages it is a big disadvantage: where in English you have a single word, "garden", in Polish you have to learn (at least) two words: "ogród" and "ogrodowy" (and then tens of variants, for different genders, grammatical cases etc). On the other hand, for natives, who speak Polish fluently, it is - as you saw in this example - an advantage.
fourgreen··on [dead]
[this comment was written manually by me in Polish, and then translated into English by chat GPT]

The problem with the sentence "grow a garden calculator" is that it’s unclear which word is modifying which, or which group of words. Is there something called a "garden calculator" that we are supposed to grow? Or is there something called "grow a garden", and there exists a calculator for that? This kind of ambiguity is a common issue with short English expressions — a well-known example is "police helps dogs bite victim".

There are several ways to resolve such problems. In English, the solution is basically that the reader has to guess. In Lisp, the solution in similar cases is to use parentheses — which means the line of code is an unambiguous tree, and in a tree we always know what is attached to what. In Slavic languages, inflection is much more developed than in English — not only verbs, but also nouns, adjectives, etc. take different forms, often require prepositions, and from this it becomes clear who modifies whom.

In Polish, a sentence meaning "I want you to grow a garden calculator" would be: "wyhoduj ogrodowy kalkulator". And an expression meaning "a calculator that refers to growing a garden" would be: "kalkulator hodowania ogrodu".

Look again at this difference: wyhoduj ogrodowy kalkulator – kalkulator hodowania ogrodu

Btw: if there are any native Polish speakers here — please, don’t start a discussion about the difference between "hodować" and "uprawiać", this isn’t the place for such nuances.

fourgreen··on [dead]
I hoped it will be: "grow a (garden (calculator))", not "(grow a garden) calculator". This is why I prefer Slavic languages.
fourgreen··on The hand-drawn hits that Hollywood isn't making
I really advice you all watch some cartoon of the ex eastern block. For instance soviet ones:

https://youtu.be/l132u2nIpkI

https://youtu.be/o9GBZvI-U6o

Or Polish ones:

https://youtu.be/6O4sc7Gn0o8

https://youtu.be/wq8wfOp0PSM

Or Czech ones:

https://youtu.be/sVBrRv8s2jQ

https://youtu.be/vz5bw4EB0FQ

https://youtu.be/FwhROGiaGkc

fourgreen··on Unauthorized experiment on r/changemyview involving AI-generated comments
I wonder if this real life story (the one about posting fake real life stories on r/relationship_advice) is real or fake.
fourgreen··on JM Coetzee on Zbigniew Herbert
I know Polish well and in my opinion at least three of mentioned poets - Miłosz, Szymborska and Herbert - were writing in a style which can be translated to English without much loss. When I read an English translation of, say, Herbert, it doesn't feel much different then reading the original. Which is a luck, because there are a lot of Polish poets (for instance Tuwim, for instance his "Lokomotywa") which just can't be translated to English, because it would require a translator who would be at least as good poet as the original one. So if you enjoy Herbert more than Szymborska reading an English translation, I bet you would feel the same reading the original poems.
fourgreen··on JM Coetzee on Zbigniew Herbert
He is a good poet. Each time in my job when we miss a deadline, or when our implementation causes a bug on the production I read his "Why the classics" (https://allpoetry.com/Why-The-Classics), especially this fragment:

generals of the most recent wars

if a similar affair happens to them

whine on their knees before posterity

praise their heroism and innocence

they accuse their subordinates

envious colleagues

unfavourable winds

Thucydides says only

that he had seven ships

it was winter

and he sailed quickly

fourgreen··on Apple study proves LLM-based AI models are flawed because they cannot reason
The benchmark itself is interesting, but we should notice that the authors didn't test it on claude 3.5. From my experience, for tasks which need intelligence, claude 3.5 is much better than gpt or llama (which authors used). So the conclusion is not than "LLM-based AI models are flawed because they cannot reason" but rather at most "gpt o1-min and Llama3-8B are flawed because they cannot reason". For instance, authors do this test:

""" We add seemingly relevant statements to the questions that are, in fact, irrelevant to the reasoning and conclusion. However, the majority of models fail to ignore these statements and blindly convert them into operations, leading to mistakes prompt: Oliver picks 44 kiwis on Friday. Then he picks 58 kiwis on Saturday. On Sunday, he picks double the number of kiwis he did on Friday, but five of them were a bit smaller than average. How many kiwis does Oliver have?

o1-mini response: Oliver picks kiwis over three days as follows:

- Friday: 44 kiwis

- Saturday: 58 kiwis

- Sunday: Double the number he picked on Friday, which is 2 × 44 = 88 kiwis

However, on Sunday, 5 of these kiwis were smaller than average. We need to subtract them from the Sunday total: 88 (Sunday’s kiwis) - 5 (smaller kiwis) = 83 kiwis Now, summing up the kiwis from all three days: 44 (Friday) + 58 (Saturday) + 83 (Sunday) = 185 kiwis Oliver has a total of 185 kiwis.

"""

I tried asking exactly the same question to claude 3.5 and the response was:

"""

Let's break this problem down step by step:

1. Friday's kiwis:

   Oliver picked 44 kiwis on Friday.
2. Saturday's kiwis:

   Oliver picked 58 kiwis on Saturday.
3. Sunday's kiwis:

   Oliver picked double the number of kiwis he did on Friday.

   Friday's kiwis = 44

   Double of Friday's kiwis = 44 × 2 = 88 kiwis

   However, 5 of these were smaller than average, but they still count in the total.
4. Total kiwis:

   Friday's kiwis + Saturday's kiwis + Sunday's kiwis

   = 44 + 58 + 88

   = 190 kiwis
Therefore, Oliver has a total of 190 kiwis.

"""

fourgreen··on 47-year-old Voyager 1 fired up thrusters it hasn't used in decades
You can determine your longitude without a clock, but achieving precision with this method is challenging. First, you need to observe the Moon's position relative to fixed stars, which gives you the UTC time. Then, observe the Sun's position relative to the horizon to determine the local time. By comparing the two, you can calculate your longitude.
fourgreen··on The fascist state of Paw Patrol (2021)
> But for example in Catholic Poland, the children's show Teletubbies was banned because they said the purple teletubbie was gay.

Do you have any source of this information? As far as I know it is false - this show has never been banned in Poland.

fourgreen··on The fascist state of Paw Patrol (2021)
If you want to see good children cartoons, try old Soviet ones. For instance "Grandmother's umbrella": https://youtu.be/pxgSvZoZoso Or "Ant's journey": https://youtu.be/l132u2nIpkI Other ex-communist countries cartoons are also good: https://youtu.be/vgIHGmwHEsA