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As someone over in /r/stupidpol pointed out the media headlines say "attacks" when in reality it's "muggings against the elderly"

The first headline gets outrage clicks, the second doesn't.

Dec 24 2020: Fauci says

> "we really don't know what the number is"

and

> "In a telephone interview the next day, Dr. Fauci acknowledged that he had slowly but deliberately been moving the goal posts"

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/24/health/herd-immunity-covi...

Could the NY Times please post their list of "slurs" for us?

I want to know which words I'm not allowed to use.

Thanks.

I'm sorry to hear that, John.

I wish the best for your father.

Submissions marked as "dead" are done so by HN moderators.

Submissions and comments that are "flagged" are done so by HN readers.

Minnesota lawmakers say coronavirus deaths could be inflated by 40% after reviewing death certificates

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/coronavirus-death-ce...

The Grand County coroner is calling attention to the way the state health department is classifying some deaths. The coroner, Brenda Bock, says two of their five deaths related to COVID-19 were people who died of gunshot wounds.

https://denver.cbslocal.com/2020/12/15/grand-county-covid-de...

I could post more but take a look at these.

'Brain fog' following COVID-19 recovery may indicate PTSD

https://www.uclahealth.org/brain-fog-following-covid-19-reco...

To suggest that these people are 100% focused on human health is to ignore human motivations.

I'm very disappointed in you Andrew. You're playing the "conspiracy" card to suppress discussion.

Are we not ask who is going to profit from this?

Are we not ask what their motivations are?

Are we not allowed to question the motives of others?

I'm very disappointed that people are no longer allowed to express certain opinions or ask certain questions online without being downvoted, flagged, and marked a conspiracy theorist.

Simply flagging a post and calling someone a conspiracy theorists is the new way to suppress discussion.

Direct link to before and after

https://i.redd.it/hx3eyixxsy661.jpg

"The existence of the human immune system is now a conspiracy theory."

Note how almost none of the posts here on HN can refute the claims directly but instead they attack the source, make jokes about 5G and so on.

Murder + Suicide counted as Covid 19

https://www.skyhinews.com/news/coroner-state-included-a-murd...

Man with 0.55 blood alcohol level (not a typo) counted as a Covid death

https://durangoherald.com/articles/324539

Ever wonder why it's so hard to have rational conversations about the lockdowns?

China’s Global Lockdown Propaganda Campaign

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/china-covid...

> Initially, British Prime Minister Boris Johnson also opted for herd immunity. But on March 13, suspicious accounts began storming his Twitter feed and likening his plan to genocide. This language almost never appears in Johnson’s feed before March 12, and several of the accounts were hardly active before then. Britain locked down on March 23.

> On July 7, FBI Director Christopher Wray disclosed that the CCP specifically approached local (USA) politicians to endorse its pandemic response:

> [W]e have heard from federal, state, and even local officials that Chinese diplomats are aggressively urging support for China’s handling of the COVID-19 crisis. Yes, this is happening at both the federal and state levels. Not that long ago, we had a state senator who was recently even asked to introduce a resolution supporting China’s response to the pandemic.

Perhaps some FOIA requests are in order.

Any journalists out there listening?

Are our state, city, and county lockdowns influenced by diplomats?

It's also important to understand that points don't mean ANYTHING on HN.

Mods have the power to weight stories so that they stay on the first page, second page, or drop off completely. Points don't matter if a mod likes or dislikes a story. Think of them as Editors and we are submitting stories they (the mods) may enjoy. The point value on the story is irrelevant.

A single person with 500 karma can "gray out" your post and suddenly you're outed as someone with a "wrong" opinion.

Users have the ability to flag posts, essentially make them invisible if they don't agree with an opinion. Get a few users to gang up on someone and you can silence people and ideas easily.

Points on HN are an illusion. People with 500+ karma and the mods are the only ones with power here.

To expand on the headline: "According to a government statement after the decision, those who fail to prove they have been vaccinated may have their rights, such as welfare payments, public school enrolment or entry to certain places, curtailed."

dupe

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25455293

Twitter announced the same thing yesterday.

Reddit mods and admins have been abusing fact checking over and over and over.

These censoring actions are more reasons why I'm done with the Democratic party and the left. I don't endorse the other side but I see more and more suppression of speech and freedoms coming from the left than I do from the right.

That's new to me. Here's a similar one you might enjoy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overton_window

Those of us who talk Covid on Reddit have seen this abused over and over and over and over.

This is the second time in as many months that Twitter has decided they are going to be the arbiter of what's true and what's not.

It's time for more federal regulations around these companies.

If people are scared to go out then why even have lockdowns?

Schrödinger's virus: We need lockdowns to save everyone but even if we didn't have lockdowns nobody would go anyway but we still need to lockdowns.

Wrong.

A reminder that Nancy Pelosi turned down not one but two $1 trillion+ stimulus offer from the White House before the election.

Trump makes $1.8 trillion economic relief offer, but deal with Pelosi remains elusive (Oct 09 2020)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2020/10/09/trump-ec...

Nancy Pelosi blasts the White House's $1.6 trillion stimulus plan, saying it's not even 'half a loaf' (Oct 01 2020)

https://www.businessinsider.com/nancy-pelosi-blasts-white-ho...

Lockdowns (government actions), not the pandemic.

The article is from The Sun, the video is from CNN.

It's more about marketing, branding, and re-branding than it is technical.

"begin"? Sure.

Lifestyle restrictions have another 9-12 months.

What once started as "two weeks" will turn into almost TWO YEARS.

Yep and same thing with "hoax".

Completely agree.

They got rid of things like the_donald but if you dare look at comments sections you see things like cheering the death of people who spoke out against masks or lockdowns.

They got rid of the right-leaning toxicity.

They specialize in, profit from, and are ok with left-leaning toxicity.

FYI this just came out today:

White House chief of staff told FDA chief vaccine must be authorized Friday or he needs to resign

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/11/politics/white-house-fda-chie...

Sick of lockdown lifestyle restrictions and although we have a vaccine it will be 9-12 months until places go back to pre-Covid levels of activity (concerts, etc)

The conditions to go back to pre-Covid life are almost impossible to meet in some counties and states due to mandatory testing for schools, businesses, and travel.

No end in sight.

An alternative to raising taxes is to decrease spending.

> they don't have the negotiating power to make the GOP budge.

A reminder that Nancy Pelosi turned down a $1 trillion+ stimulus offer from the White House.

Trump makes $1.8 trillion economic relief offer, but deal with Pelosi remains elusive (Oct 09 2020)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2020/10/09/trump-ec...

Nancy Pelosi blasts the White House's $1.6 trillion stimulus plan, saying it's not even 'half a loaf' (Oct 01 2020)

https://www.businessinsider.com/nancy-pelosi-blasts-white-ho...