karmakurtisaani

Are you and the people responding to you bots? Not saying I disagree with you, but this has nothing to do with the conversation before this comment.

Or perhaps not. You don't want to retire at a moment when the retirement fund is down 20% and decides to pay no interest on your savings for the next 10 years. Or not pay you at all.

Also, if the current administration and the tech oligarchs decided next to start burning poor people to power data centers, it would be a bit unreasonable to just expect the discussion to revolve around how cool the automation technology in the poor people furnace is.

I.e., sometimes you just can't separate politics from everything else.

> Stock market reporting is always pretty funny. "Stocks went up because the Democrats won!" "Stocks went down because the democrats won!"

Both of these can be true. The reporting is just capturing the sentiment driving the market. There might be a relief rally that things will stabilize now, followed by a panic that data centers will not be built according to the expected schedule.

If this is now where this bubble pops, I have to point out that this has by far been the least fun bubble of my lifetime.

Remember the frenzy before the .com bubble? The nerds were finally winning! The housing one? Finally everyone could afford a house!

AI bubble? Layoffs for everyone, techbros turned fascists, impending doom somehow as a selling point. Like, wtf?

Of course the consequences were always shit, but that's a given in an economic crisis.

I started a bit earlier with QBasic. The coolest thing was using assembly to make code really fast. I understood exactly none of it, but thought that was the ultimate programming language and wanted to learn it one day.

Eventually I learned you don't really need it and felt a bit sad. Similar sadness I feel now that LLMs write all the code for you.

I don't disagree.

That's not really the same tho. In primaries, everything is still under one party. It's hard for outsiders to enter and spread their message.

Well, the belief is not worth much here. How do you express optimality condition of the form f'(x) = 0 with finite difference? Answer: you don't.

But if this doesn't ring a bell, it's probably better to drop this.

I think the point is more that there's no middle ground to distribute opinions more evenly.

I would say it's impractical, but it's actually very convenient for all symbolic manipulation.

No, back propagation is just the chain rule from calculus. d(f(g)) = df(g)dg. It is applied to linear algebra, but with linear algebra alone you will never arrive to it.

You can just admit you don't understand calculus (and go and learn it if you care). No reason to go around doing mental gymnastics about it.

Ah, HN pedantry. "The thing you said is perfectly correct in the context you meant and everyone understood, but technically..."

Why is this flagged? And don't come whining how you don't like political content here.

I don't like political content in my daily life, but political content decided it will meet me in the grocery store, gas station, etc. And I don't even get the same political content as those poor people in Ukraine or Gaza or Tehran.

Good luck optimizing without being able to use the condition f'(x) = 0. You might think you can do everything numerically, but when your function has parameters you're in trouble.

Geez, I don't know why I keep arguing with you people. I've seen several examples where just integrating or derivating something gets you an analytic solution that you can compute in an instant, rather than having to start doing some 3 dimension integrals numerically.

How do you think they came up with backpropagation..

> Who needs calculus anyways?

I can't really think of anyone. Maybe just mathematicians, physicists, economists, computer scientists, chemists and engineers. Apparently they even use something called back propagation in AI training, which is nothing but chain rule from ... calculus.

But yeah, I can't see it being relevant since we have linear algebra already.

So you're going to always only do numerical computations only? Good luck solving even simple optimization problems that have a few parameters.

Good luck with calculus tho.

Yep, ranting against galactic polynomial algorithms reminds me of the people who oppose the use of infinity. Like, yes, it's not physically realistic construction, but it makes things simple enough that we can do analytic solutions to problems and simplify terribly complicated things.

Polynomials are closed under multiplication, so you can do a poly algorithms poly number of times and still have a poly algorithm. That's very convenient.

Sounds like we need a War on "War on X"-headlines.

"Those damn elves.. They came out of nowhere.. And were long gone by the time the napalm started raining.. All you could hear was a faint chime of their bells as they retreated to their tunnels.."

I hate this "War on X" rhetoric. They're not going to bomb the ocean or send troops to shoot it, so why make it sound like it? Just say what they're actually going to do about it.

Fascism favors loyalty over competence.

Among other reasons, because it's been evident that the numbers won't add up from the beginning. It's always delicious when reality catches on a major scam.

I switched to engaging more actively on Lemmy. But it's funny how many comments like this there are in this thread, kinda makes me happy I wasn't the only one who couldn't deal with the forced log in bullshit.

This is not true. A major shareholder would definitely have a cash cow company keep producing a steady 5% dividend return plus stock growth over a one-off 30% gain followed by slow death, as they cannot liquidate their position at the peak price anyway. (This was not the case with reddit, but just to illustrate an ideal situation).

It's a failure of the board of the company to allow the CEO to make a quick buck while trashing the future, and can lead to law suits.

The real problem is that the CEO might just have been incompetent enough to think reddit can get away with anything.

On a side note, I stopped commenting on reddit when they got rid of 3rd party apps and stopped lurking after they forced log in. Lemmy has been a decent alternative, but could still use more users.

This is very well illustrated in the fable Boy who cried false positive.

"Look how badly the democrats are handling the Iran war! They have completely failed to restore the trust of our allies in Europe! They did not even televise the execution of the treasonous Trump administration!"

Ok, the last part is wishful thinking, but for sure the dems will be blamed for not fixing Trumps failures fast enough.

For elaborating something unclear they're great tho.