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laurenceputra

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laurenceputra··on Threading in Python
GIL? I've found that a single thread is slower than not running a thread at all.
laurenceputra··on Show HN: Hush, an "incognito mode for Facebook"
4chan with facebook login?
laurenceputra··on Dropmyemail's security
yea, you are now aware of the mass assignment bugs, but what about previously? even github got affected by it. are you saying that they are incompetent? what about bugs that have yet to be revealed?

what i am saying is that there may be some things that you forget about, because we are all humans. and in order to mitigate the risk from us being humans, we should not store passwords in a way that is easily recovered.

laurenceputra··on Dropmyemail's security
And again, I am not doubting your competence. What I am saying is that we are all humans. Google might have hired the best computer scientists around the world but they still got hacked. It might even be a problem with the programming language you are using (rmb mass assignment on ROR?)

"We offer people an off-site backup at the cost of trusting a third party with their password."

Yes, this is my main point. People have to learn that they shouldn't be giving out passwords to just about anybody.

I think this guy in the comments here (http://blog.geeksphere.net/2012/09/27/response-to-dropmyemai...) made a pretty good point. Maybe you might want to answer his doubts there?

laurenceputra··on Dropmyemail's security
i'm not assuming you are incompetent. what i'm saying is that no system is fully secure, and by saving the users' passwords, you are risking them.

one of the first rules i learnt in web development is this, you do not store passwords. (http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2010/12/the-dirty-truth-abo...) you never assume that your system will be so secure that no one can hack it.

laurenceputra··on Dropmyemail's security
so you do concede that it can get ugly really fast.
laurenceputra··on Dropmyemail's security
and by storing the passwords, they are putting their users at risk. and we are in an era where email security means more than anything. it means access to all your services.

they should go think about how they can design a service securely before offering it.

laurenceputra··on Dropmyemail's security
how does it not apply?
laurenceputra··on Dropmyemail's security
what they could have done is to allow users to autoforward their emails over to their servers or something. not impossible, but i'm not their employee and i'm not responsible for thinking up business strategies for them.

so yea. not necessary

laurenceputra··on Dropmyemail's security
in fact, seeing how your account was created to post that comment and seeing how it doesn't make sense, i would suspect that you actually work for them.
laurenceputra··on Dropmyemail's security
they can't, unless the email service gives them oauth.

and even then allowing a 3rd party to backup your emails is a very dangerous thing to do. they say that credit card is more dangerous, i say no. for credit cards you can claim fraud.

when your email gets hacked, potentially your whole digital life is gone

laurenceputra··on Dropmyemail's security
I'm the author.

1) The app downloads your emails into their server.

2) Yes, they store that actual password. Which is ridiculous.

3) Yes, good for them for that, but still there are others where they store passwords. And that is not acceptable.

4) But that also means that they outsource the security part of things. Which doesn't lend faith to the idea that they know about security. And if someone realises how to control their application, all the passwords will be hacked.

5) Pidgin is stored locally. There's a difference. Not that I support it, but it's still better than someone storing my passwords.

laurenceputra··on I Wasn't Paid
thanks, we have started to enforce it alr :)
laurenceputra··on Where can I find great/new programming tech talks?
here's another good place, altho more of culture rather than the technical stuff.

http://nushackers.org/2011/03/movies-documentaries-and-video...

laurenceputra··on This is definitely a bubble
ok, i'm not from the US, and I don't really know what's this 'good energy' you're talking about. Care to explain?
laurenceputra··on This is definitely a bubble
the funny thing is that she thinks vintage air sells.
laurenceputra··on This is definitely a bubble
but they actually listened to her all the way, and as one comment said, some sites claimed that she might already have gotten funding.
laurenceputra··on This is definitely a bubble
yea, i saw that page.

they received funding? O.O, this is really a joke.

laurenceputra··on This is definitely a bubble
uh, as far as i know, yea. i even went to google her up
laurenceputra··on McKinsey’s corrupted culture
even if they are bound by NDA's they can still use what they know to make decisions for the new client.