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(And it’s annoying as hell if you actually want to play a game rather than watch a movie.)

He gets credit when the share price goes from 300 to 95, but not when it goes from 38 to 700?

I’m not a fan either, but it doesn’t bother me at all. Who cares? Let the python people do their thing.

We don't buy public companies expecting AMZN level return from every single one of them.

If we're just wishing for everyone to behave exactly how we want, you might as well just wish for the company operators and executives to behave exactly how you want as well. And then you don't need to coordinate the much larger employees group.

> Any calls for Meta to change are useless until Mark Zuckerberg no longer holds a majority of voting shares.

That's not true. Zuckerberg blinked when the share price hit the 90s in 2022. Despite holding the vote, he started listening to external investors more.

> If there was a leaked internal communication about them disrupting elections, the news stories would probably lead with that instead of dancing around the subject.

And it works! Nearly every comment here is just riffing on how this was definitely intentional and further evidence of the commenter's preconceived notions of Meta, etc, etc.

No actual details or evidence of favoritism backing the claims.

What do you think left has to do with this?

I think it's pretty silly to try to separate the internet from computers.

Is there some reason it's written 11175 kHz instead of 11.175 MHz?

Computers, of course, can be criticized in the same way.

No one is preventing women from buying the products marketed at men if they are happy with the price/feature/branding. That they choose to spend more money than men in this category is not a tax any more than, say, power tools (or any other category with more male spending) being a "blue tax."

"Pink tax" isn't real.

The maximum penalty is written into law. The minimum penalty is like, $1. The judge can arbitrarily choose any number in that range. This is how judicial verdicts work in almost any context (sometimes there are higher minimums, or sentencing guidelines, but judges have a lot of flexibility).

It matters because it affects the number of counts of violation and the penalty per violation has a maximum.

> The judge did, at a huge discount from the statutory rate.

The judge assigned penalties below the statutory maximum, but maximums are rarely assigned and both the number of counts and ultimate number the judge came up with are all dubious.

> Not sure what you think you're adding to this discussion.

Well, aren't you abrasive. What do you think you were adding here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50187613? It's either not responsive to the grandparent comment or needed rebutting. I rebutted, under the generous assumption your comment was responsive.

> But they grew much bigger still thanks to illegal tacticts.

This is just not a claim that was before the court and not grounds to assess damages on.

No. $219B is the absolute maximum theoretical fine assessable at $5000/violation x 43 million counts. The $25B number is still ridiculous. Either the number of counts is too high (seems likely at 20x the population of NM) or the assessment per count is too high, but regardless, they need to arrive at a lower number.

If this is out of the NM AG, they're probably using house attorneys -- no fees. It is likely to be appealed and reduced in appeal.

I agree momentum for Rust is growing, but disagree that it is obvious the writing is on the wall for C++. Like, Java and C# didn't kill C++, either. In all likelihood, these languages will all coexist for a long, long time.

Using LLMs to write C feels a little silly to me. (Unless you really need C.) LLMs are still imperfect; you're still going to get a lot of UB bugs like human-authored C.

> Meta chief legal officer C.J. Mahoney criticized the penalty, saying in a statement that the company is “confident” that it will “prevail on appeal.”

~50% of 2018 revenue, which is when the CA scandal was happening.

Q3 earnings. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50187025

A jury is involved in the process. If the jury doesn't find violations, the judge can't assign penalties for those violations.

> The jury concluded that Meta had more than 43 million violations of the state’s unfair practices act, with each transgression carrying a civil penalty as high as $5,000.

Note that this is like, 20 violations per resident of New Mexico. And also ~50% of Facebook's total revenue (more than 100% of income) at the time of the CA scandal.

Maybe note in particular the new non-voting share class (class C).

Maybe one or two line functions are a totally different scale than "all source code files in a crate"? So like, one is problematic in a way the other is not. And the guidance is "prefer small," not "always super tiny." See: "Larger crates are allowed" later on. And also see: "Rationale: Fine-grained library targets are recommended in Chromium due to the massive size of our codebase, non-local effects of adding dependencies in the build graph, and to improve performance of parallel compilation and build caching."

Plenty of new C++ going on at my BigCorp employer.

I didn't say that at all. Medical professionals use GLP1 conversations to discuss healthy lifestyle interventions. They are not mutually exclusive.