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Hi, humbly said: I am the maker of Unminus. I’m working on it beside my job and three children - towards a dream I had 3 years ago. I am aware that "Unsplash for Music" is a very high goal and I know it's still a long way from here. Nevertheless, I believe in being able to get closer to this "together" :-)

That's why I'm looking intensively for your qualified feedback in this second round on YC.

like: • what are main issues to solve from your perspective? • what are basic features still to provide? • is staying "ad-free“ a must? • what are suitable paths for funding to get to the next level? ... would be so excited to get your response here.

Here is a new free song special for Hunters (private link early access) https://www.unminus.com/private/611334050473492480/tumblr_gx...

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As a Music Artist I found out early, that Music-Copyright is not trivial. So in the beginning of Unminus I decided to give my own music away for free as I can assure the rights. Today, after some steps of improvements and contributions, I am looking for like-minded people to follow the creation of a go-to place for free premium music.

I'm really looking forward to your feedback & support to maintain and extend the project while keeping it ad-free. Thanks so much.

Wowa from Germany

I think you are right, it should land on artist page. Thanks

Great. Yes will definitely do that. Thanks a lot.

wow, thanks a lot. appreciate it. Will definitely add those features. Didn'T you get the subscribe modal/pop-up in the right down corner?

Hi - cool thanks! What do you exactly mean by this?

Hi thanks for your thoughts. What should be changed at least in your opinion to prevent being suspicious about that matter? thanks

Hi HN Community, I want to thank everybody participating in this discussion about „Unsplash for Music“ (beta) :-) This is my first experience on HN and I have to say it was fascinating and enlightning. Thanks for all the qualified feedback, corrections and kind words.

To give appropriate thanks to you all, I decided to provide a new exclusive free short track which I posted privatly. You can find it here: https://www.wowa.me/private/182444650937/tumblr_pm6riikWf31u...

For me - I’m gonna roll up my sleeves now and implement some of the feedback on the website with the help of some of you contacted me and offered their support.

All the best.

T H A N K Y O U !!!

hi. I'm not sure if I understood everything but I will try to answer: Regarding scalability: I think in the far future scaling will be possible through implementing AI, optimized and automated processes and a bigger team working together on that project. But honestly I am much more focused on quality than quantity for now and things like "understanding all legal aspects" etc. But of course in future I will work on having more different artists from different genres on the platform with growth capacity. -- Regarding "self-promotion": As I stated in other reply, I just started giving my own music for free as I realized that this is the only way to start assuring copyright restrictions. It should not be about me primarly. I also consider changing the Domain-URL from ".me" to a ".com" to support this. -- Regarding all technical issues you mention - wow really helpful thoughts but I am not a pro by far. None you mentioned is in any way with bad intention - the opposite, I tried eliminate all unnecessary stuff from a tumblr template to get a clean website. If you have concrete improvement ideas please contact me directly via mail - really appreciate your thoughts!

For now I'm already starting to work with some of you who offered to support the project technically and to build it on a more scalable solution. stay tuned (newsletter) Thankyou!

Thnx

:-)

you're right, I will add it. thanks

Thanks! For now I use a mix of personal review and copyright mechanisms from soundcloud. Personal check is important to ensure quality.

Scaling will be supported by AI and more personell in future I assume. Thankyou

Haha - thanks, I will see - thank you.

Awesome. Love all those honest feedback. Also to you success with your projects.

you have to click on "DOWNLOAD" to get the song below you find the artists which provided the songs e.g. JNGS...

great Infos and Links, will dig deeper in all this...thanks

Kevin MacLeod is awesome and an inspiration. I think incompetech is only MacLeod music or? I would love see all different artists - "unsplash for music" simply :)

I think domain is not so important - the project can run with any domain even if I would take it away. What I love about it is just that its short. What I hate, that you can think its related to me personally. I dont want to be in the foreground.

What do others think about URL and Name - should we change it?

you are kind - thanks a lot! great Ideas - will come definitely.

ok, maybe you are right and thats the reason why unsplash changed it from "CC0" to "unsplash license".

if I read the official CC0 Page it fits completely https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/deed.en

I will study the topic even more and provide a suitable declaration. https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/legalcode

thank you

I thinking of this almost every day but not sure 1. do you mean changing the URL but leave the name? 2. do you think I can still change it? thanks.

Hm, Do you think its not CC0? Unsplash has same words: https://unsplash.com/license

I added this one to make it even clearer: "So you can be safe and sure: You can make commercial projects by using all music on WOWA, you just can't sell the music as it is or create another "WOWA" with this music."

Thanks

You are right. Thank you!

How to add it to this github?

Hi thanks! 1.Not sure about a volume slider - always saw this as avoidable for simplicity and UX. 2. You absolutely right. Its a must. Was to complicated so far... we'll see

I will uplaod the music to youtube later but I will not add them to "youtube network id's" as this would prevent also you / the user from using the music in your videos.

So I think we will concentrate on unique soundtrack music which is not suitable for putting vocals on top but everyone can use them in videos, apps & co. of course remix and them etc.

Thank you.

That would be great :)

Thanks a lot! Hmm, Could you please tell which browser and device you are using so I can double check?

Thanks

thanks a lot, appreciate your feedback! You are right, for now there are not so many songs, but in future it will be annoying to scroll down to get to the footer. Will try to create Footer-less Website.... Thanks so much

You are absolutely right. I found many Projects and YouTube Channels in the past which were claiming "no copyright" music but have either many different crediting rules in small print or have claimed ownership via YouTube or Soundcloud.

As a Music Artist I found out early, that Music-Copyright is not trivial - just because someone says a song is copyright-free and submit it, it really is - still someone else can claim ownership rights on parts of the song etc.

I realized that I can't easily get some songs from the internet and put them online. I decided to give my own music away for free as I can assure the rights and I only used license free material in the music. In the hope others will follow.

To answer your question: All submitted songs to wowa.me will be checked and reviewed one at a time on quality and ownership. I use tools to ensure this song is not already registered etc. Furthermore every submitter has to accept terms of submission.

But you got me on two important things: 1. Submitting System needs to validate email-realness via double-opt-in or so.

2. How multiple commercial usage can work? Example: artist uses the free beat/soundtrack and publish this new song (with vocals) to all platforms (spotify, itunes and youtube network) Question: Will YouTube copyright mechanism take effect if another artist uses same free beat with other vocals?

thanks