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This is why anecdotal evidence is pretty bad.
Whether you blame a faulty OpenAI sandbox or whatever you might regarding the frontier model companies today, one day soon, actors with no sandboxes and guardrails will have the power in their own hands to do whatever they wish with.
To me, that’s the real story. The real thing to discuss. OpenAI as it exists today js just a blip in that story.
I think “rogue” is just fine, but pick another word from the thesaurus if there’s a better one; they asked it to do something, and it did it in a way that presumably doesn’t align with their desires (e.g. hacking into other systems).
1. Would we prefer they didn’t disclose? I would not. And I also don’t believe they’re making them up. 2. Regulation does not have to provide an advantage to these major players. Regulators do not have to be stupid. 3. This is exactly the scenario AI researchers and theorists have been positing for decades, and it’s worth being on top of it.
1. They, and many other experts, have been saying the same thing since well before the current paradigm existed. 2. There is nothing about regulation that is required to give them an advantage; it’s a fallacy to suggest “regulation = advantage” 3. It would be preferable to argue the facts (is it or is it not dangerous? Why or why not?) than conspire as to why they’re stating what they and plenty of others have been saying for decades
The other half of my worry doesn't need an attacker with intent. The Hugging Face incident was systems acting outside anyone's intent, just AI trying to solve a problem.
Was it something people talked about openly, or more like background noise everyone knew about and few mentioned? Were there "nuclear threat deniers" in your experience?
Prescribing blame only matters so much when the ramifications are material. Humans make mistakes, right? It happened here, and it will happen again.
The mistake also illustrates the dangers of AI generally. Sure, OpenAI made mistakes with the sandbox. But in the future, greater capabilities will be available to actors who intentionally pursue harmful ends.
I've already started to feel this.
One thing that made us special was our intelligence. We were, and were always going to be (unless some alien form of life arrived), the most intelligent things on earth. Is that still true today?
It's frightening to be personally concerned about the possibility of this powerful technology getting out of control and to see little but conspiracizing in response.
Do you have any thoughts on why the concerns of Bill Gates, Geoffrey Hinton, Eliezer Yudkowsky, et al. are wrong? It would make me feel better.
This is a very confident statement in the face of a purported non-0% chance of human extinction.
For what reasons do you disagree with the dangers of an intelligence explosion, e.g. Geoffrey Hinton and other experts in the field? https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/sep/28/ai-godfat...
I'm curious why you and others seem to write off the possibility so strongly. I would love to feel more confident.
A million AI monkeys at a million AI typewriters, banging away at random, could do amazing damage.
I’d previously heard 1M a day.
Keep an eye on https://twitter.com/facebookstop10 and you may change your mind.
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Many people likely have something that springs to mind, based on their own existing biases, but that differs between people. When naming a particular "fabrication" you'll probably encounter much more resistance. (Russiagate? HIV/AIDS? The moon landing?)
I'm all for science, but are you implying China's strict COVID lockdown strategy didn't save any lives?