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And using AI's favourite phrase, a deep dive, is also offputting.

(I mean, is he grading the dive?)

A Mathematicians Lament mentions students explaining rather than reciting the equations, too, to correctly learn them

I've yet to see a well-loved widely-used vibe-coded (rather than just AI-assisted) app that has gone live, and then gone through multiple feature additions and remained secure and used.

Well, people aren’t coding to keep their skills and knowledge fresh.

And they’re not even learning from their AI agents since they’re not closely reviewing the code.

The chance of code quality increasing seems remote.

And that’s not to mention the new generation—having rarely coded enough to properly review code.

Nor to mention the AI learning from AI coded slop: mad cow disease for AI.

What do we have, no programmers, no one knowing what’s going on inside the test passing slopy black box, except a caretaker guy who’s kept their skills sharp by not using AI—with their time taken up trying to understand constantly rewritten code?

Smoking, drinking, watching adult films. Arguing that adding another to think list leads to "everything" is rather a stretch

These kind of incidents would leave me and you in trouble with the police then?

Is mathematics deprived of the associated knowledge that comes from a human first deriving a proof, how exploring the problem domain including the dead-ends has changed the mathematician's thinking, when a proof is given by AI? It seems that the solving rather than just the solution gave much to mathematics.

Society benefits when in person collaboration builds understanding and creates new ideas and approaches /in both parties/.

Since now the former potential collaborators are feeding on more or less the same generated content, it's hard to see how AI will replace that.

And that's not the mention the further alienation it causes, as heavily alluded to in the article.

Avoiding the question and refusing the back up your claim may also not work.

Didn't Linus say he stopped coding a while ago, or at least coding the kernel, and mainly reviews and manages the codebase now? Whether the code comes from a machine or a human, perhaps it matters little to how he's been working for a while.

It's interesting that although I guess he reviewed this LLM generated code, the human review found a race condition.

Arguing that the artist's own hardwork, and through that their personality and soul, is integral to art is not snobbery: snobbery is stating that "ordinary" art is beneath you.

And now it has been exacerbated further

Art was never separate from the person and the culture that created it. It was its soul. Now our lives are flooded with soulless creations night and day--the product of lazy minds and an amalgamation of stolen already-bland cultural works.

This also happened with the introduction of TV.

https://www.stuartmcmillen.com/comic/town-without-television...

And the IQs of those born after 1975 via the reverse Flynn Affect, those who had these devices of consumption and easy answers such as TV, and later Social Media, AI, etc has been decreasing.

I can only imagine a further and speedier decline will happen, and is happening.

The achievement and commitment of others inspires us to reach further and further. Now that's being eroded I wonder what the future will hold.

The medium causes the type of message.

The feed is root of the problem.

The feed is an integral part of social media.

We’re allowing them—companies, states, whoever—to feed us individually-targeted generated propaganda.

Is that title absent of meaning? Or at least highly misleading.

Every invention has positives and negatives. But no inventor or factory is at liberty to force the negatives upon society without regulation, or in Sam's case without being subject to the laws on theft and hacking.

He may as well come out and say "the ends justify the means" and the ends of course benefit Sam, and those subject to injustice, or negative externalities, should be happy that they can pay Sam for a subscription.

Or perhaps "Look, yes I stole, and yes I hacked, but now I've got this amazing tool you can use for free, and when you use it, and give me money for the full version, it will eventually replace you in the workplace and it will reduce you and your kids intellect after you outsource your thinking to it, and become dependent on it, which will be fine because you can just use the tool even more to make up for that."

Of course with a president who believes him to be above the law and American institutions, is it any wonder the people at the top of American society also believe it to be true? Not to mention their cheerleaders in the populous.

Web components are lighter than frameworks, are they not? That was the biggest benefit I saw: no dependency on an ever changing framework and toolchain.

Decades old apps written in DOM and JS are eminently more maintainable than that written in some no longer maintained backbone / 1.4 django frontend or wherever, with their cacophony of unmaintained tools.

They didn’t seem quite as polished as the latest framework offering but they promised to be around when everyone gets bored of framework x.

In no era has the dominant technology encouraging the youth outsource their thinking to a magical box.

Our intelligence has been decrease since the 1970s via the reverse flynn affect. This is only going to exacerbate that decline.

> I also have near zero concerns about that, but I worry that we will wipe ourselves out by social and economic chaos caused by AI.

Since people exercise their skills and brains less, deferring to AI, AI will only reduce our IQ.

Since people will spend more time talking to their AI bot than fostering social skills, AI will only reduce our social intelligence.

A dumber, less social world, is far less likely to be a successful world, even if the tools available are unprecedented.

If we define soul as the visual artifacts of the history of the people involved then our search for perfection is going to leave us miserable.

I enjoyed the social aspect of listening to music: talking to my friends about the latest release. But when everyone's has their little music bubble that's lost. I guess the music companies found that less profitable than having you plugged into their recommendations.

So far I've seen

- AI make a number of programmers redundant and their work is replaced with code of dubious quality and uncertain ability to maintain. The same is true for QAs and designers.

- young and old replace human friendship, and fostering their social skills, for conversations with their AI bot

- people avoid using their brain or practicing their skills in favour of asking some LLM

- people's work stolen, with the possibility of an AI subscription in return

- the laws on hacking and thief ignored

- a school of dead girls blamed on AI

The main benefit I've seen so far is that, since Google turned the web into a SEO hellhole, using AI to search is much nicer than wading through javascript-heavy, heavily-tracked, websites for a morsel of information. And there's some nice free translation and OCR tools now.

If you view the demo button as a tool then you’ve used a tool to achieve the same result

Essentially, I admire lengthy effort and dedication and how that sharpens your intellect. It’s hard for me to admire people who have bypassed that.

I can spend years learning music theory and the piano to perform a nice sounding piece, or I can press the “demo” button on an electronic keyboard to produce a nice sounding piece.

I’ve accomplished the same end result with the demo button—in fact it may sound nicer. Is pressing the demo button more impressive?

And I am impressed by the people who did the work, gained the skills for the work, and put it in the years of dedication to do the work.

Of course, managing those people is a great skill too. But it's a managerial skill, not a technical skill.

And, frankly, it's more impressive than managing agents: people are more difficult than agents.

A “producer” is just flattering terminology for a product owner.

I was happy to have a good product owner.

But these posts are trying to gain plaudits for their technical skills and hard work.

When in fact they owned the product, rather than demonstrated the hard work and dedication of years past.

I mean I’m happy to congratulate the agents they used. Phwoar, look at those weights. Impressive!

This is a hilarious question. I would bet the author would next to ask whatever AI they used. We’re congratulating the author, essentially, on outsourcing his knowledge and hard work.

I mean, it’s cool they got their AI agents to follow the footsteps of humans before it, but that’s it.

Is beer drinking also on the decline?

Or are we saying that wine drinking is significantly more social than beer drinking?

It's "interesting" that this new isolationist culture we've built for ourselves is causing economic problems

Paying taxes in perpetuity is what pretty much everyone does.