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>Whats really weird is I'm in the UK and use PIA VPN on Community Fibre and for some reason 4chan only loads outside of the VPN.

This is probably 4chans doing? lots of websites block traffic from popular vpn exit nodes

> And even if a US-based company happens to have employees in a country that's pushing this shit, well, they can shrimply close that office and explain to local politicians exactly why. It's regrettable to lose good employees, but it's way worse to be far less of a hero in the fight for fundamental rights than 4chan and Kiwi Farms are just to keep a few good employees.

I mean even if all of these companies closed up shop and fortified themselves inside the US, the countries wanting to enforce their rulings would simply block the IPs of the offending sites or their providers. This is what happened with CF and spanish football broadcasting rights.

Most consumers dont really care about AI code but rather hate AI art assets, writing and dialouge

guardrails are often implemented independently from the model afaik and therefore have nothing to do with model capability

Yes, I think the guardrail one is especially egregious.

The adversarial features such as trying to hit guardrails (which arent a display of model (in)capability) or make it forget all previous instructions are mostly what Im talking about. I think the esoteric features like lettermatching are whatever

Yeah, this is what i wanted to see. An esoteric lang that changes symbols or calling conventions or keywords etc from the standard to see if an LLM would find its footing in it but this is just kinda pointlessly adversarial to LLMs and does not test their abilities when presented with novel environments/tasks outside of their training data

I think what youre looking for is what Tim Sweeney describes in the article with UE6 integrating into fortnite as an ecosystem for game development. Look forward to the future for that I guess

I realized my comment was too short and would need explaining so please read the other comment I wrote https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50139050

Okay to expand.

WoW classic was certainly a business move, but afaik from watching a couple of wowc videos, a part of the appeal was the rerelease of the following expansions, which they cant just do forever since it would just lead to the same end, so they have to pivot to WoW forever.

LoL classic has not been as successful as wow, and even they have talked about patching the game literally less than a month after its release.

Both of these classic releases don't seem to be permanent games, and their rerelase seems aimed to capture the nostalgia while still providing live service updates in order to prevent people from getting bored because their endgames can't continuously monetize players.

OW 2 was supposed to be a release with a pve mode as it's focus, which it failed, so there was no real reason to have a distinction between ow1 and 2. Both the removal and return of 6v6 and role queue have been nothing more than attempts to balance the game, and I don't really see the need to point it out as "MBA damage" any more than any other patch for any other game.

I have no comments about HOTS because I played at most 5 matches in the game 10 years ago.

>For better or worse, some degree of gate keeping is healthy in this industry. I think if you want to be the CEO of Xbox that you must demonstrate some kind of ranked ladder experience in halo or COD. A 1v1 StarCraft match with the interim CEO. Just a stupid idea idk what to say. Being a gamer has nothing to do with managing a gaming company well

> but.. to be fair, I haven't purchased any music in years either, but I listen to music all the time; everyone just streams it now.

And the margins on streaming for the artists are quite low. I don't think I would want that for developers.

But also, this kinda exists in roblox, where the games are free but have lots of microtransactions, since roblox uses a digital currenct mtx model, it does kinda lower friction for the users of the platform who play multiple games and spend money on them.

> The revitalization of old games via the "classic" release model has demonstrated that simply undoing the MBA damage is an extremely viable option

The rerelease of classic is the MBA damage lol.

MMOs as a form encourage the formation of companies operating as businesses to facilitate their production, and MMO players often talk online like they simply dont understand this but also that they have authority over this because it happened to their genre first. I find it very bizarre.

The solution for companies looking to invest these higher budgets is in fact to make an ecosystem game, because ecosystem games capture continuous revenue from players rather than one time purchases. I'm surprised the article doesn't mention the gacha game boom as it is the prime example of companies trying to adjust to the market.

> Turns out that even people who are down for that sort of game don't need more than one (and they already have that one)

Not sure about this. There are lots of people who have a main game but still pick up every 3rd or 4th fotm aaa/indie darling, and I think most gacha game players play more than 1 from what I've seen.

> whereas all kinds of people would be happy to buy something unique and fun.

I don't really believe this from my experience with interacting with people.

When is the last time you have opened itch.io and bought a couple of games?

The reason this isnt happening that much anymore is that the standards for games have increased for the average consumer, so development costs have increased to fit those standards. And even then, publishing your game in a monetizable way is hard and often requires starting capital now.

And when it is happening, it is happening on roblox. When is the last time you have opened roblox? It is more or less exactly what you want -- teenagers make either simple games or free copies of more popular games and then fill them with microtransactions to make money.

Community of people that orbit around LessWrong and a list of bloggers that have some weird ideas about reality. The reason they are "important" is that lots of SV/bay are engineers are into rationalism, and believe some things about AI because they consider themselves rationalists

> however, the person that received it is also a minor of the same age thus also inappropriate to charge them

No not really, sharing sexual images to others that were shared to you directly by a person should be (and in some countries is) a crime. The boy in the linked case should be the one charged with the distribution of child pornography, or something akin to revenge porn since they are both minors.

It is probably very hard to carve out these exceptions for minors sexting, but we already have (in some countries) consent laws that factor in relationships between minors. I don't see why this would be different

The consumption (possession) of CSAM is criminalized. Having a photo of you killing someone is not criminalized, but it will be used as evidence against you. These are not comparable

> ... but the opposite end of that is prosecuting teenagers for distributing photos of themselves to other teenagers (their same-age peers)... which has unfortunately occurred due to improper application of the law.

Do you have a concrete example of this happening? Every time I have heard of a minor being persecuted for possession or distribution is when one person sent an image of themselves to another person and then that other person further distributed it to other people without their consent, which to be clear is wrong.

The existence of AI pornography has not destroyed the market for real pornography. Why would it be the same with CSAM?

Do you think child pornography should not be outlawed?

Why is this villainous? We want AI to be a tool for intellectual work. If it is "conscious", "ensouled" or "feeling" then it transcends being a machine and becomes a "being". Would you rather AI be enslaved rather than just a machine?

Cloud gaming is incompatible with any online competitive game because it adds additional latency that simply feels bad for the user. Console-esque locked down systems are the only real solution

yes monetizing a video game (or any piece of software) is almost always opposed to allowing the user to freely modify the software

The US tech sector has a big problem of avoiding responsibility for their own actions and has for many years. The reasonable answer to this incident is that they massively downscale their capabilities until they can ensure they can test their models without endangering others. Because this is not profitable and would potentially get them fired, they write lines and lines on X the Everything App about its oh so hard to deal with progress this fast and actually its your fault that you havent hardened your security against our petabyte scale "superintelligence" and how its unreasonable that they be held responsible for the software they are developing and deploying.

So much spilled ink to have sympathy for people who actively admit they have no control over what they are building and dont plan to change or stop. Lol

One of the most bizarre things from the past couple of years is how every single tech person that isnt living under a rock talks like a channer incel. It feels insane to me to see everyone say shit like "mogged", "-maxxing" or "-slop".

Finally something to dethrone the AAA Mario video when you want to say a game is really soulless and shitty

This is Theo's project, and he has been very transparent about how he is only doing these things because api prices are heavily subsidized by subscription pricing. The reason people aren't willing to pay 400k to an engineer to do this work is because they aren't paying the AI this much.

I don't think I've seen an enterprise paying API prices doing these sorts of rewrites, and honestly, I think until that happens I will remain skeptical about LLM AI's viability as a profitable business.

> For example Jai and Odin both seem to really want you to write code which can throw away a "per-frame" arena periodically so they're not paying to track allocations in the arena because they're all thrown away at the same time

Given that both of these are intended for game development, wouldn't that make the most sense?