So you'd just end up with the big players (ex. Sectigo, who cross-signed these certs btw), who would then claim too big to fail should anything actually go wrong with them (see: Comodo).
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So you'd just end up with the big players (ex. Sectigo, who cross-signed these certs btw), who would then claim too big to fail should anything actually go wrong with them (see: Comodo).
[1]: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/doge-doesnt-exist-with-eigh...
This PCWorld article seems to be taking that to mean that every single gmail account (2.5B) is at risk with nothing to support that claim.
The indictment explicitly answers your questions about why Megaupload was different from other file sharing services.
Longer term, yeah they'll probably just make their own search engine.
I highly doubt Google would give Mozilla anything. The only reason I think they would would be to appease Chrome monopoly concerns, but I don't think Chrome is even at risk of that. It's not the default browser on any platform other than ChromeOS and some Android devices.
However, the total window of time here is small. They registered the domain in late November 2023 and this UDRP was filed in late February 2024. It also sounds like initial contact to try to acquire the domain occurred in early December 2023... so only a couple days after it was registered.
In your example, you had that domain well in advance, it's your self-identified pseudonym that predates said mark, and it's actively being used to host your personal website. That seems like a pretty strong defense.
If clientportal.somebank.com is actually run by somesaas.com, they can define CNAME _acme-challenge.clientportal.somebank.com --> [some_key].domainvalidations.somesaas.com
When the SaaS vendor needs to request a new cert, they set the appropriate TXT record on [some_key].domainvalidations.somesaas.com.
If the process is automated then revocation can be automatically handled as well (so long as ARI gains traction).
I think this tends to fall into "probably shouldn't have been using Web PKI". I can't immediately think of a reason why you'd need a publicly trusted certificate if you're pinning a specific public key.. at that point who cares who signed it?
I do agree that there are real costs with rotating certificates that ultimately may make it impossible for an organization to complete that work in the revocation window. That is very much an area that needs further automation developed and more importantly, for it to actually be adopted. I believe that's what ACME Renewal Information is attempting to address.
"but in those cases the business users are ok with an outage to remediate a real security issue"
Ideally yes, but that might be the same point you find out the certificate was used in some critical system (let's say Air Traffic Control like a previous CA tried to claim). They still may very well not be okay with the revocation despite the security issue. _Those_ are the people that need to stop using these certificates and there's really no way to weed them out until a revocation actually needs to occur.
"Digicert screwed up their system implementation and made their customers suffer."
And those customers are right to be mad at DigiCert. They probably don't have a legal basis to challenge as the subscriber agreement explicitly permits immediate revocation without prior notice, but they can certainly take their business elsewhere.
"It's also disheartening to see browsers in the CA consortium ignore the CA resolutions as well. Like how everyone voted for 2 year certs and Apple did their own thing anyways. Any punishment for Apple come? So why pick on the others?"
Admittedly I'm not very familiar with the various root programs and the obligations they have with CAs, but it doesn't seem unreasonable that root programs would be free to impose stricter requirements then the BRs.
Though I do find it two-faced for Apple to vote for Ballot 193 only to then impose a stricter requirement. At the very least they should have abstained.
Bold.
Ideally these companies should have response plans in place to prioritize certificate rotation. They can use this as a fire drill for what would happen if there were a key compromise.
Alternatively, if companies cannot handle the rotation, then they likely should re-evaluate if WebPKI is even appropriate for their use-case.
[1]: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1885568
[2]: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1898848
[3]: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1910237
[4]: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1896053
[5]: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1896553
[6]: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1877388
[7]: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1903066#c48
Also roots can be TLD constrained, typically to ccTLD(s).
I would be willing to pay a reasonable price to access a live CBS/NBC/ABC/Fox stream, but no one (legitimately) offers that. So OTA it is.
> How precisely does Hetzner calculate the hourly billing?
> The beginning of the hourly billing starts as soon as the product becomes available to you.
So for a dedicated server you start paying once the server has been commissioned to you. You stop paying once you return it.